Is it a stage as defined by the building code or a raised floor (a
platform)? I've had many a platform called a stage and just by writing
stage on a plan the architect created a whole can of undesirable reactions.


On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Reed A. Roisum, SET <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Here is the verbiage from 2009 IBC (just because that is what I had in my
> notes)...
>
> Section 410 - Stages and Platforms
>
> 410.7 Standpipes. Standpipe systems shall be provided in accordance with
> Section 905.
>
> 905.3.4 Stages. Stages greater than 1,000 square feet in area shall be
> equipped with a Class III wet standpipe system with 1 1/2-inch and 2
> 1/2-inch hose connections on each side of the stage.
>
> Exception: Where the building or area is equipped throughout with an
> automatic sprinkler system, a 1 1/2-inch hose connection shall be installed
> in accordance with NFPA 13 or in accordance with NFPA 14 for Class II or
> III standpipes.
>
> 905.3.4.1 Hose and cabinet. The 1 1/2-inch hose connections shall be
> equipped with sufficient lengths of 1 1/2-inch hose to provide fire
> protection for the stage area. Hose connections shall be equipped with an
> approved adjustable fog nozzle and be mounted in a cabinet or on a rack.
>
> If you choose to install a 1 1/2" hose connection in accordance with NFPA
> 13, go to 8.17.5 (2013 ed.).
>
>
> Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection
> Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 |
> http://www.kfiengineers.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 4:04 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Hose Valves for Stage
>
> Have you read the building code for your state?   In CA, we amend the IBC
> so I can't be sure of where you'll find it, but for us the script is in
> 905.3.4.  It's the designer's option and there are scenarios for both.
>
> SL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 1:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Hose Valves for Stage
>
> Steve-
> Are you saying the 1-1/2" is correct or the 2-1/2" with the reducer? If
> the 2-1/2" what's the point of the reducer?
>
> Brian Harris, CET
> BVS Systems Inc.
> bvssytemsinc.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 4:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Hose Valves for Stage
>
> Yes because that's what the building code provides for if the building is
> fully sprinklered.  It can be arranged either as a standpipe system or as
> hose valves supplied by the sprinkler system.
>
> Steve L.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Hose Valves for Stage
>
> What's the consensus for the required hose valve size on a high school
> stage? I've done several schools and the AHJ has always allowed 1-1/2"
> valves since they would only be used in a "clean-up" type capacity. A/E now
> wants me to change them to 2-1/2" valves with a 1-1/2" threaded reducer.
> Make sense to anybody?
>
> Brian Harris, CET
> BVS Systems Inc.
> Sprinkler Division
> bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/>
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