Ditto David.  Your experience was mine to the tee.

 

Thank you,

 

Bob Knight, CET III

208-318-3057

 

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On 
Behalf Of David M. Canham
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:07 AM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: sprinkler design programs 

 

I tried to switch two times and found it be worst investment I ever made. Both 
time switched back to SprinkCad after a year. Lost a ton of money. Last time I 
was told that if I took the training class and used it for a year and did not 
live it they would refund the lease money (not the training). That never 
happened. Took way too long for coordination. I kept getting out of memory 
errors when importing other traded 3D files. They told me I had to break the 
other files up into smaller ones and create AutoSprink block. Being we get 
revised backgrounds several times a day this left my no time to draw. Their 
answer was to buy another 7500 dollar utilities to help automate that task on 
top off the 25,000 dollar program they were already selling me.  Terrible tech 
support as well.  This was s few years back so things may be better. Training 
facility was a dump with obsolete laptops that would not run all of features. 
No plotter to show how to plot(which turned out to be problematic )

Everything it does it seems I can now do with fewer steps.  Really feel ripped 
off  

David M. Canham

Fire Systems Solutions

15 Sayles Avenue

Lincoln, RI 02865

Office 401-725-1089

Fax 401-725-1583

Cell 508-277-FIRE (3473)


On Sep 20, 2016, at 11:25 AM, John Irwin <jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com> 
wrote:

Well their own tech team has been unable to explain to us how to “do it 
correctly” and has recommended buying a seat of Hydralist .. so ..

 

John Irwin

Manager – Fire Sprinkler Division

Critical System Solutions, LLC
Cell:     813.618.2781

Email:  jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com

 

 

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On 
Behalf Of Cliff Whitfield
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:20 AM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: sprinkler design programs 

 

Great program. Been on it for over 10 years. 

 

The listing works better than any other. If you think you need convert to hydra 
list for your fab shop, you just have to know how to do it correctly.  
Certainly not garbage but if you don't know the correct way it's like 'pushing 
a button' to run calcs, not the best thing to do. 

Cliff Whitfield, SET

President

Fire Design, Inc.

828-284-4772

 

cl...@fire-design.com

www.fire-design.com


On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:57 AM, John Irwin <jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com> 
wrote:

We’re about 90 days in to the process of changing over. It’s been tedious to 
say the least. I like the program but it’s very different from anything that’s 
AutoCAD based. Also make sure your fabricator is either set up to price from 
AutoSPRINK or they are willing to price from a PDF stocklist. AutoSPRINK’ s HLF 
conversion is garbage.

 

Also plan on investing in the training courses.

 

I don’t think we will go back to HydraCAD but there have been numerous times 
during changing over that I have considered pulling the plug. Having said that, 
I did talk to many, many users before we purchased and the general consensus 
was that the end justified the means.

 

John Irwin

Manager – Fire Sprinkler Division

Critical System Solutions, LLC
Cell:     813.618.2781

Email:  jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com

 

 

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On 
Behalf Of Rocci Cetani 3
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:52 AM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: sprinkler design programs 

 

Anyone on the forum use AutoSPRINK? I thinking about switching over and would 
like some user input. 

 

Thank you!!

 

Rocci Cetani III, CET

Designer

Water-Based Fire Protections Systems Layout, Nicet Level III

 

Northern California Fire Protection Services Inc.

16840 Joleen Way Bldg. A

Morgan Hill, CA 93037

P-(408) 776-1580 EXT.111

F-(408) 776-1590

 

 

roc...@norcalfire.com

www.norcalfire.com <http://www.norcalfire.com/> 

 

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