I learned AutoSPRINK from the day I started designing. I came in the office
after 10 yrs in the field., learned computers, AutoSPRINK and design at the
same time. I love AutoSPRINK. I have seen other programs and feel I can be
more thorough with this one right here. We design and stocklist.

Bobby Gillett
*Living Water Fire Protection, LLC*
1160 McKenzie Rd.
Cantonment, FL 32533
(850) 937-1850


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Travis Mack, SET <tm...@mfpdesign.com>
wrote:

> David:
>
> That's the first I have heard of such issues...interesting.
>
> You must have the training class for AutoSprink.  Trying to do it on your
> own is crazy.  That is for sure.
>
> As far as coordination, there has been nothing better for me.  I just take
> the other trades drawings and bring them right in.  It has been no issue at
> all.  I have even found some ways of doing it better and making it even
> easier.  I xref the other trades in so it is less memory intensive.  Plus,
> a simple new import and my working file is all up to date.  It is a very
> slick process.
>
> I make the changes in real time during online coordination meetings.  I
> usually have my model uploaded by the end of an online coordination meeting.
>
> I have to go clean up some of the other trades at at times.  When they
> have 100000 objects that make up bolts, that is pretty memory intensive.
> But other than that, it is not a real issue.
>
>
> Travis Mack, SET
> MFP Design, LLC
> 2508 E Lodgepole Drive
> Gilbert, AZ 85298480-505-9271
> fax: 866-430-6107email:tm...@mfpdesign.com
> http://www.mfpdesign.comhttps://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692
> Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign
> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack
>
> On 9/20/2016 10:06 AM, David M. Canham wrote:
>
> I tried to switch two times and found it be worst investment I ever made.
> Both time switched back to SprinkCad after a year. Lost a ton of money.
> Last time I was told that if I took the training class and used it for a
> year and did not live it they would refund the lease money (not the
> training). That never happened. Took way too long for coordination. I kept
> getting out of memory errors when importing other traded 3D files. They
> told me I had to break the other files up into smaller ones and create
> AutoSprink block. Being we get revised backgrounds several times a day this
> left my no time to draw. Their answer was to buy another 7500 dollar
> utilities to help automate that task on top off the 25,000 dollar program
> they were already selling me.  Terrible tech support as well.  This was s
> few years back so things may be better. Training facility was a dump with
> obsolete laptops that would not run all of features. No plotter to show how
> to plot(which turned out to be problematic )
> Everything it does it seems I can now do with fewer steps.  Really feel
> ripped off
>
> David M. Canham
> Fire Systems Solutions
> 15 Sayles Avenue
> Lincoln, RI 02865
> Office 401-725-1089
> Fax 401-725-1583
> Cell 508-277-FIRE (3473)
>
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 11:25 AM, John Irwin <JIrwin@
> criticalsystemsolutions.com> wrote:
>
> Well their own tech team has been unable to explain to us how to “do it
> correctly” and has recommended buying a seat of Hydralist .. so ..
>
>
>
> *John Irwin*
>
> Manager – Fire Sprinkler Division
>
>
> *Critical System Solutions, LLC *Cell:     813.618.2781
>
> Email:  jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces@lists.firesprinkler.
> org <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] *On Behalf Of *Cliff
> Whitfield
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:20 AM
> *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> *Subject:* Re: sprinkler design programs
>
>
>
> Great program. Been on it for over 10 years.
>
>
>
> The listing works better than any other. If you think you need convert to
> hydra list for your fab shop, you just have to know how to do it
> correctly.  Certainly not garbage but if you don't know the correct way
> it's like 'pushing a button' to run calcs, not the best thing to do.
>
> Cliff Whitfield, SET
>
> President
>
> Fire Design, Inc.
>
> 828-284-4772
>
>
>
> cl...@fire-design.com
>
> www.fire-design.com
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:57 AM, John Irwin <JIrwin@
> criticalsystemsolutions.com> wrote:
>
> We’re about 90 days in to the process of changing over. It’s been tedious
> to say the least. I like the program but it’s very different from anything
> that’s AutoCAD based. Also make sure your fabricator is either set up to
> price from AutoSPRINK or they are willing to price from a PDF stocklist.
> AutoSPRINK’ s HLF conversion is garbage.
>
>
>
> Also plan on investing in the training courses.
>
>
>
> I don’t think we will go back to HydraCAD but there have been numerous
> times during changing over that I have considered pulling the plug. Having
> said that, I did talk to many, many users before we purchased and the
> general consensus was that the end justified the means.
>
>
>
> *John Irwin*
>
> Manager – Fire Sprinkler Division
>
>
> *Critical System Solutions, LLC *Cell:     813.618.2781
>
> Email:  jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces@lists.firesprinkler.
> org <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] *On Behalf Of *Rocci
> Cetani 3
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:52 AM
> *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> *Subject:* sprinkler design programs
>
>
>
> Anyone on the forum use AutoSPRINK? I thinking about switching over and
> would like some user input.
>
>
>
> Thank you!!
>
>
>
> *Rocci Cetani III, **CET*
>
> *Designer*
>
> *Water-Based Fire Protections Systems Layout, Nicet Level III*
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