Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 (ofc) 860-608-4559 (cell) via Newton Mail [https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=ti&cv=9.1.25&pv=9.3.5&source=email_footer_2] On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Brad Casterline <bcasterli...@gmail.com> wrote:
but:
1) you still have your pride
2) those whom come after you will have an easier path, and,
3) those type of bully ahjs and inspectors change careers, becoming shoe salesmen, etc.


And they may have started their careers as disbarred lawyers.


On Oct 18, 2016 6:13 PM, "Travis Mack, SET" < tm...@mfpdesign.com [tm...@mfpdesign.com] > wrote: What is the cost of a dry pendent installed? $100, $300??? How many man hours is going to be spent by the contractor trying to fight against it? Sometimes when you win, you still lose.


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On 10/18/2016 4:11 PM, Brad Casterline wrote:
That may be Travis, but it's more economical to tell the ahj where to put it in this case.

b

On Oct 18, 2016 6:02 PM, "Travis Mack" < tm...@mfpdesign.com [tm...@mfpdesign.com] > wrote: We've had so many ahjs and inspectors require that it is just easier to put in.

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On Oct 18, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Brad Casterline < bcasterli...@gmail.com [bcasterli...@gmail.com] > wrote:

Thats why i put the "?" after overhang.
How is it physically different?
We don't often sprinkler exterior floor areas.

Brad

On Oct 18, 2016 5:48 PM, "Travis Mack, SET" < tm...@mfpdesign.com [tm...@mfpdesign.com] > wrote:
I have run into this many times. We always put a dry pendent in that area.


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On 10/18/2016 3:43 PM, Dewayne Martinez wrote: Not an overhang. The entry way juts into the warehouse so that the roof of the building is still overhead fully protected and there is a 20ft gap then the entry way. Since its cold in the winter here I would need to install a dry pendant to protect the space below the entry ceiling. Just trying to avoid this if possible. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Brad Casterline < bcasterli...@gmail.com [bcasterli...@gmail.com] > wrote:Sounds like an exterior floor space with no fuel load to me. The 10 ft high noncomb ceiling is an overhang? I'm gonna scratch my head on 8.15.7.4 a while, but I don't think that's your get out of Sprink free card here.

Brad

On Oct 18, 2016 7:38 AM, "Dewayne Martinez" < dmarti...@total-mechanical.com [dmarti...@total-mechanical.com] > wrote:NFPA 13 (07ed)8.15.7.4



I have a warehouse that is 30ft tall with inset entryways with non-combustible walls/doors on 3 sides and open on the 4 to the outside. The entryway is about 10ft tall with a noncombustible ceiling. Would 8.15.7.4 (or any other rule) allow me to omit sprinkler protection for this? No combustibles will be stored below.

Thanks,

Dewayne



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