You can always make him an umbrella from the wire mesh and see if he want's to use it during the next monsoon. Maybe that will get the point across.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Travis Mack, SET <[email protected]> wrote: > correct..it does in that respect...so it may be applicable then... > > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > 480-505-9271 > fax: 866-430-6107 > email:[email protected] > > http://www.mfpdesign.com > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack > > On 2/3/2017 1:48 PM, Cliff Whitfield wrote: > >> But doesn’t the 70% rule apply to obstructed and unobstructed types of >> construction (bar joists)? That's vertical >> >> Cliff Whitfield, SET >> President >> >> Fire Design, Inc. >> 184 Comfort Place >> Burnsville, NC 28714 >> Ph: 828-284-4772 >> >> >> [email protected] >> www.fire-design.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces >> @lists.firesprinkler.org] >> On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET >> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 3:45 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Obstruction to Pattern Development, Seriously ?? >> >> The only issue may be pattern development. With a grated floor, there is >> nothing that will prevent pattern development. With the wire mesh in the >> wall, it may affect pattern development. So, if it doesn't continue to at >> least 18" below the deflector in the vertical plane, you may not be >> comparing apples to oranges when using the same thinking of grated >> flooring. >> >> Travis Mack, SET >> MFP Design, LLC >> 2508 E Lodgepole Drive >> Gilbert, AZ 85298 >> 480-505-9271 >> fax: 866-430-6107 >> email:[email protected] >> >> http://www.mfpdesign.com >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 >> Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign >> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack >> >> On 2/3/2017 1:38 PM, Brian Harris wrote: >> >>> Cliff- >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Brian Harris, CET >>> BVS Systems Inc. >>> bvssytemsinc.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sprinklerforum >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Cliff Whitfield >>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 3:36 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Obstruction to Pattern Development, Seriously ?? >>> >>> Brian, >>> >>> I believe if you can apply the 70% open rule to mezzanines, the same >>> would >>> >> hold true for an obstruction in the vertical plane if it's 70% open. You >> might look into that thinking. >> >>> It's late in the day and my brain is a little fried so I may be way off >>> in >>> >> my thinking. >> >>> Cliff Whitfield, SET >>> President >>> >>> Fire Design, Inc. >>> 184 Comfort Place >>> Burnsville, NC 28714 >>> Ph: 828-284-4772 >>> >>> >>> [email protected] >>> www.fire-design.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sprinklerforum >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Brian Harris >>> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 3:28 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Obstruction to Pattern Development, Seriously ?? >>> >>> Mark- >>> The divider goes from floor to ceiling (open to structure). My first >>> >> thoughts too were the hospital curtain theory even though that's for LH >> only. If heads were on both sides of this thing they would "cold solder" >> >>> each other if they ever went off. >>> >>> Brian Harris, CET >>> BVS Systems Inc. >>> bvssytemsinc.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sprinklerforum >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Mark Phillips >>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 3:24 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Obstruction to Pattern Development, Seriously ?? >>> >>> How far down from the ceiling/ deck does the divider go? >>> >>> Could be similar to the hospital curtain rule exception Sorry don't >>> have a NFPA 13 code book handy >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid >>> On Feb 3, 2017 3:05 PM, Brian Harris <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I am working on a project that the owner wants to install a wire mesh >>> >> divider. The screen is made out of 0.188" dia. wire in a 2" square >> pattern. >> >>> I'm saying heads are not required on both sides but I'm getting push back >>> >> from the engineer reviewing the plans. 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