Pulling a Brad and replying to my own post ☺. I also found the following in NFPA 13, 2010 edition…
NFPA 13, 2010 edition A.8.16.1.1.1 … All valves controlling water supplies for sprinkler systems or portions thereof, including floor control valves, should be accessible to authorized persons during emergencies. Permanent ladders, clamped treads on risers, chain-operated hand wheels, or other accepted means should be provided where necessary. 8.16 Piping Installation. 8.16.1 Valves. 8.16.1.1* Control Valves. 8.16.1.1.1* General. 8.16.1.1.1.1 Each sprinkler system shall be provided with a listed indicating valve in an accessible location, so located as to control all automatic sources of water supply. 8.16.1.1.7* Control Valve Accessibility. All control valves shall be located where readily accessible and free of obstructions. Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 | KFIengineers.com<http://www.kfiengineers.com> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Reed A. Roisum, SET Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:25 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Combined Standpipe/Sprinkler System Floor Controls Location Are there requirements for the location and accessibility of floor controls on a combined sprinkler/standpipe system? I am reviewing NFPA 14, 2013 ed. and it appears as though you are allowed to locate control valves above a ceiling or in a closet or in a concealed space with an access panel based on 6.3.8.4… “Where a main or sectional system control valve is located in a closed room or concealed space, the location of the valve shall be indicated by a sign in an approved location on the outside of the door or near the opening to the concealed space.” I know it isn’t best practice to have it difficult to get to the controls but I am looking for if there are any requirements in NFPA 14 or 13 on where the floor controls shall be located. The appendix in NFPA 14 says they “should be accessible to authorized persons during emergencies”(A.6.3.6.1.1), but are there any “shalls” anywhere? Does “accessible” mean that you can physically get to it with some work, or does it mean readily accessible where a large man in full gear can walk to it without squeezing through an access hatch? Is locating floor controls above a grid ceiling acceptable? A.6.3.6.1.1 also says, “Permanent ladders, clamped treads on risers, chain-operated hand wheels, or other accepted means should be provided where necessary.” Any guidance is appreciated. Thanks. Reed Roisum Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 | KFIengineers.com<http://www.kfiengineers.com> ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________
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