Contact CaptiveAir the system you describe is the CORE.  It is only required to 
be feed from the domestic.  The issue I have had is getting calculations and 
flow numbers at the correct points to verify the system will work.  In my case 
the installer called the GC who then called the sprinkler company because they 
know how to do calculations.  Problem is these are a bit different.

CaptiveAir will send you information that will assist with providing the needed 
information to the AHJ.  In the manual the hydraulics covers about 2-3 pages.  
I would not allow the sprinkler system to feed the CORE.  Every time the hood 
fan is shutdown the CORE washes the inside of the hood.  That would activate 
your flow switch.  The FD and the owner are then going to blame your company 
for the FD response every night.  I am sure that will get old very quick.

Duane T. Fox, Jr., CFPS, CFI, CFPE
Asst Chief, Technical Services
DE State Fire Marshal’s Office
302-856-5298



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Behalf Of rongreenman .
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kitchen hood system and fire sprinkler

Travis,

What are "these?" Ansul Piranhas?

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Travis Mack 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I've run into these on a few projects. We have convinced the GC to connect to 
domestic system in the past.

In this particular project, the GC is forcing the issue to connect to the fire 
sprinkler system. My question is:

Do we need to flow these and a design area for sprinklers in the kitchen at the 
same time? Or can they be sized independently?

These things require as much as 70 psi. The data sheet provides a k factor and 
a pressure range of 40-70 psi. The pressure range is dependent on the length of 
the hood. However I can't get the vendor to provide the exact psi for it at 
this time.

My thought is to use the k-factor and hit it with 70 psi. If I have to flow the 
kitchen sprinklers (900 sq ft) it will cause quite the over discharge and 
likely not work.

So, any ideas if I should flow them simultaneously like a rack system, or just 
prove each other independently?

Travis Mack, SET
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