Does the standard define the standpipe as a post or pylon?

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 12:10 PM Mike B Morey <[email protected]> wrote:

> Where is the standpipe located?  Are we talking a typical stairwell
> install or elsewhere?  Section 307 starts off by stating that it governs
> circulation paths, and stairs aren't part of that definition in section
> 1005 based on a quick look.  The standard is available several places
> online if you google it, not sure if they're "legal" copies but for the
> sake of answering the question I'd take a look at that angle.  If its in a
> hall or something I'd imagine it could be put in a box in the wall or
> something.
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> From:        James Litvak <[email protected]>
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> Date:        11/14/2017 02:59 PM
> Subject:        ANSI A1171.1 Figure 307.3
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> I'm working on building permit plans for a job, and the architect passed
> on an email from their accessibility consultant that the fire department
> hose valves can't protrude beyond the standpipe riser more than 4", per
> ANSI A117.1 figure 307.3. The text of that section is:
>
> 307.3 Post-Mounted Objects. Objects on posts or pylons shall be permitted
> to overhang 4 inches (100 mm) maximum where more than 27 inches (685 mm)
> and not more than 80 inches (2030 mm) above the floor. Objects on multiple
> posts or pylons where the clear distance between the posts or pylons is
> greater than 12 inches (305 mm) shall have the lowest edge of such object
> either 27 inches (685 mm) maximum or 80 inches (2030 mm) minimum above the
> floor.
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> What they're saying is that we will need to turn an elbow up from the
> outlet of the standpipe and install the valve vertical. I've already told
> them this won't work anyway, since the valve itself has a 5" hand wheel,
> and due to takeouts, the least amount of projection physically possible is
> about 8". According to the consultant, the way to mitigate this is to
> install cane protection, which the architect appears to want to avoid. Is
> anyone aware of this code section, and does it apply the way I'm being told
> it does? In nearly 13 years as a designer, I've never been told such a
> requirement exists.
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> James
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