I’m so used to seeing everything being CL 52 cement lined DIP I have to ask. Is DIP that isn’t cement lined readily available?
Do you need to use a C-factor in design that accounts for future corrosion with unlined DIP? Best. Bruce Verhei > On Feb 19, 2018, at 10:18, Reed A. Roisum, SET <raroi...@kfi-eng.com> wrote: > > Correct. > > > Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection > Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 | > http://www.kfiengineers.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 11:58 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type > > Using nitrogen should help mitigate the corrosion issue with standard DI. > > I assume there will be a drum-drip back in the riser room so they can keep > the line drained? > > > Craig L. Prahl > Fire Protection Group Lead/SME > Direct - 864.920.7540 > Fax - 864.920.7129 > Direct Extension 77540 > CH2M is now Jacobs. > 200 Verdae Blvd. > Greenville, SC 29607 > craig.pr...@ch2m.com > http://www.jacobs.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On Behalf Of Reed A. Roisum, SET > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:51 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type [EXTERNAL] > > Thanks Craig. Yes, the valve room is below grade. > > If we use nitrogen to charge the dry system then would we just use standard > DI? > > > Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection > Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 | > http://www.kfiengineers.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 11:36 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type > > Cement lined ductile iron. If you use standard DI, and a standard > atmospheric sourced air compressor you can have rust and scaling buildup with > ambient air inside pipe in contact with cooler ground temps. > > How are you going to slope underground pipe back to an aboveground valve > room? Basement level valve room? > > > Craig L. Prahl > Fire Protection Group Lead/SME > Direct - 864.920.7540 > Fax - 864.920.7129 > Direct Extension 77540 > CH2M is now Jacobs. > 200 Verdae Blvd. > Greenville, SC 29607 > craig.pr...@ch2m.com > http://www.jacobs.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On Behalf Of Reed A. Roisum, SET > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:11 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Underground Dry System Pipe Type [EXTERNAL] > > I asked a similar question a number of years ago and it appears as though the > consensus at that time was that dry-pipe system underground pipe should be > ductile iron. We have an application where the dry-pipe system leaves the > valve room and goes underground and then extends above ground. Is ductile > iron the best option for the underground portion? We are able to slope to > drain back to the valve room. > > Thank you. > > Reed Roisum > > > Reed A. 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