Yeah I didn't think you meant tire storage for real but some are making 
suggestions based on some assumptions of what will and will not be under the 
overhang or whether or not doors will be left open. But somewhere a line has to 
be drawn. I can't protect against the grounds crew setting 10 gallons of gas on 
the court while they cut the grass..

⁣John Irwin 
DynaFire Inc. 
Tampa Fire Sprinkler Division 
727-282-9243 

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On Apr 13, 2018, 6:02 PM, at 6:02 PM, "Kyle.Montgomery" 
<kmontgom...@aerofire.com> wrote:
>I was kidding. Probably should have added a smiley face or something.
>
>-Kyle M
>
>From: Sprinklerforum
>[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
>John Irwin
>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 12:56 PM
>To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
>Cc: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
>Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Exterior Play Area
>
>I'm not sure assuming the worst is the way to go. Additionally, 2/3 of
>the covered area is concrete basketball court.
>John Irwin
>DynaFire Inc.
>Tampa Fire Sprinkler Division
>727-282-9243
>This email was sent from a mobile device. Please forgive brevity,
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>On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:53 PM, "Kyle.Montgomery"
><kmontgom...@aerofire.com<mailto:kmontgom...@aerofire.com>> wrote:
>
>Yeah, but that stuff they put on the ground is shredded tires. So... I
>guess start looking at tire storage criteria. Probably go ESFR in that
>area.
>
>-Kyle M
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sprinklerforum
>[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
>bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com<mailto:bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 12:10 PM
>To:
>sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org>
>Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Exterior Play Area
>
>I vote no sprinklers required -- open and noncombustible- the
>rockinghorse on a spring is like a newspaper machine - there will
>always be just one of them- not one today and twelve tomorrow.
>
>Brad.
>
>Quoting Steve Leyton
><st...@protectiondesign.com<mailto:st...@protectiondesign.com>>:
>
>8.15.7.5<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__8.15.7.5&d=DwMFaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=Z_2A85VL7AQzoqudh6uOyS3bn8etxB7nLN8OBJwQd9A&m=OeJDgERQwBcZoeYM4zC_CWx1wcceSNVevQaMLrllsyo&s=OS-1SE6_GvVizS7Zhqjvd3jbR5Rqh78zoRxs6UsQy7s&e=>.
>
> From: Sprinklerforum
> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
> John Irwin
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 11:10 AM
>To:
>sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org>
> Subject: RE: Exterior Play Area
>
> I can appreciate your opinion, but I need a code reference.  😉
>
> John Irwin
> DynaFire Inc. – “Same Day – Next Day”
>
> From: Sprinklerforum
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>boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org%3cmailto:sprinklerforum-%0b%20boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>>>
>On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 1:47 PM
> To:
>sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerfo...@lists.fir<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org%3cmailto:sprinklerfo...@lists.fir>
>esprinkler.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__esprinkler.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=Z_2A85VL7AQzoqudh6uOyS3bn8etxB7nLN8OBJwQd9A&m=OeJDgERQwBcZoeYM4zC_CWx1wcceSNVevQaMLrllsyo&s=hHjaPy-UiYdRJFuUrcKsauO1bhgK9KKPT_fGOq7dbLM&e=>>
> Subject: RE: Exterior Play Area
>
> Assuming there’s play equipment there (fire load) and knowing that
> there are kids occupying the space, I wouldn’t call this an
> “exterior projection”.   It’s a shad structure with occupancy below
> and IMO requires sprinkler protection.
>
> SML
>
> From: Sprinklerforum
> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
> John Irwin
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 10:42 AM
> To:
>sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerfo...@lists.fir<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org%3cmailto:sprinklerfo...@lists.fir>
>esprinkler.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__esprinkler.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=Z_2A85VL7AQzoqudh6uOyS3bn8etxB7nLN8OBJwQd9A&m=OeJDgERQwBcZoeYM4zC_CWx1wcceSNVevQaMLrllsyo&s=hHjaPy-UiYdRJFuUrcKsauO1bhgK9KKPT_fGOq7dbLM&e=>>
> Subject: Exterior Play Area
>
> Protecting a light hazard Boys and Girls Club. I excluded an exterior,
> but covered, attached and open play area. Non-combustible.
> It’s a couple thousand square feet. I excluded using NFPA 13 2013
> 8.15.7
>
> Client is telling me that he her other fire sprinkler guys telling him
> he needs sprinklers in that areas.
>
> What say you?
>
> [cid:image001.png@01D3D318.846AE470]
>
>
> John Irwin
> Fire Sprinkler Specialist
> DynaFire, Inc. – “Same Day – Next Day”
> 727-282-9243 – Cell
>
> “A customer is the most important visitor on our premises. He is not
> dependent on us. We are dependent on him. He is not an interruption on
> our work. He is the purpose of it. He is not an outsider on our
> business. He is a part of it. We are not doing him a favour by serving
> him. He is doing us a favour by giving us an opportunity to do so.”
>
>
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