I doubt this is a 20 ft wide by 100 foot projection John but if it was you could stub out ten or twelve light hazard dry sidewalls off the wet system inside -- 2-3 grand? to placate yourself, the ahj, and the lawyers if it all went south some day?
?B.

Quoting John Irwin <john.ir...@dynafire.com>:

Yeah I didn't think you meant tire storage for real but some are making suggestions based on some assumptions of what will and will not be under the overhang or whether or not doors will be left open. But somewhere a line has to be drawn. I can't protect against the grounds crew setting 10 gallons of gas on the court while they cut the grass..

⁣John Irwin 
DynaFire Inc. 
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On Apr 13, 2018, 6:02 PM, at 6:02 PM, "Kyle.Montgomery" <kmontgom...@aerofire.com> wrote:
I was kidding. Probably should have added a smiley face or something.

-Kyle M

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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Exterior Play Area

I'm not sure assuming the worst is the way to go. Additionally, 2/3 of
the covered area is concrete basketball court.
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On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:53 PM, "Kyle.Montgomery"
<kmontgom...@aerofire.com<mailto:kmontgom...@aerofire.com>> wrote:

Yeah, but that stuff they put on the ground is shredded tires. So... I
guess start looking at tire storage criteria. Probably go ESFR in that
area.

-Kyle M

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I vote no sprinklers required -- open and noncombustible- the
rockinghorse on a spring is like a newspaper machine - there will
always be just one of them- not one today and twelve tomorrow.

Brad.

Quoting Steve Leyton
<st...@protectiondesign.com<mailto:st...@protectiondesign.com>>:

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I can appreciate your opinion, but I need a code reference.  😉

John Irwin
DynaFire Inc. – “Same Day – Next Day”

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Subject: RE: Exterior Play Area

Assuming there’s play equipment there (fire load) and knowing that
there are kids occupying the space, I wouldn’t call this an
“exterior projection”.   It’s a shad structure with occupancy below
and IMO requires sprinkler protection.

SML

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Subject: Exterior Play Area

Protecting a light hazard Boys and Girls Club. I excluded an exterior,
but covered, attached and open play area. Non-combustible.
It’s a couple thousand square feet. I excluded using NFPA 13 2013
8.15.7

Client is telling me that he her other fire sprinkler guys telling him
he needs sprinklers in that areas.

What say you?

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John Irwin
Fire Sprinkler Specialist
DynaFire, Inc. – “Same Day – Next Day”
727-282-9243 – Cell

“A customer is the most important visitor on our premises. He is not
dependent on us. We are dependent on him. He is not an interruption on
our work. He is the purpose of it. He is not an outsider on our
business. He is a part of it. We are not doing him a favour by serving
him. He is doing us a favour by giving us an opportunity to do so.”



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