SFPE hosted a webinar yesterday on Globe’s new attic protection scheme. They 
had some great video that explained a lot of what is being talked about here.
  
  
  
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> On Apr 20, 2018 at 3:19 AM,  <Bcasterline (mailto:bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com)>  
> wrote:
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>  It was pointed out to me off forum the literature cleary shows back to  
> back cannot be used when the channels are running end to end.  
> (Thanks again Ed).  
> So, should the same '8 foot rule' be applied for parallel to the slope  
> when the channels run end to end?  
>
> Thanks,  
> Brad  
>
> Quoting bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com:  
>
> >  I was glancing through the literature of one of the Specialty Attic  
> >  Sprinkler makers (back-back at the peak) and none of the plan views  
> >  shows which way the channels were running so the delay in activation  
> >  for the rare case of channels running end to end can be neglected,  
> >  apparently. The Fire always goes up fast enough and if that's good  
> >  enough for attic sprks it should be good enough for SSU.  
> >   
> >  Brad  
> >   
> >  Quoting bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com:  
> >   
> >>  That paints a perfect motion picture Roland.  
> >>  So we space for 8ft end to end, not eave to peak.  
> >>  On the off chance the channels run end to end it might be a good  
> >>  idea to go 8 eave to peak too?  
> >>  I've modeled attic type head discharge patterns but it never  
> >>  occurred to me to try and gain a better understanding of the 8ft  
> >>  thing by modelling activation, and now thanks to you I don't have  
> >>  to...  
> >>  Gee thanks Roland,  
> >>  Brad  
> >>   
> >>  Quoting Roland Huggins  <rhugg...@firesprinkler.org>:  
> >>   
> >>>  Just the opposite but your reasoning when viewed a little  
> >>>  differently will help lock it down. The fire goes up the slope  
> >>>  and does not spread out in the normal circle. This results in the  
> >>>  adjacent sprinklers (from the channel with the heat) seeing much  
> >>>  less of the heat. SO if they are closer to the channel  
> >>>  (represented by a spacing of 8 ft) then a normal pressure but if  
> >>>  further apart (longer activation time) then a higher pressure .  
> >>>   
> >>>  Roland  
> >>>   
> >>>  Roland Huggins, PE - Senior VP Engineering  
> >>>  American Fire Sprinkler Assn.  
> >>>  Dallas, TX  
> >>>  http://www.firesprinkler.org  <http://www.firesprinkler.org/>   
> >>>   
> >>>  Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives  
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> >>>>  On Apr 17, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Jeff Normand  <jeff.norm...@gmail.com>  
> >>>> wrote:  
> >>>>   
> >>>>  I agree that wording confuses me also. Perpendicular to slope.  
> >>>>  Been too long since I've dealt with this and I have to look it up  
> >>>>  each time. But I'm thinking it makes sense that the spacing would  
> >>>>  be up the slope - fire goes up the slope - so no more than 8 feet  
> >>>>  apart up the slope.  
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