Check out the Bermad FP 436.  It is a “pressure sustaining valve.”  I’ve seen 
water purveyors require these so that you don’t draw the suction line below 20 
psi.  It is installed in the pump discharge.  It also acts as your pump 
discharge check valve.

 

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From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Mark.Phelps
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Suction Control Valve

 

The 2019 version of NFPA 20 goes on to say : 4.16.5.4   No control valve other 
than a listed OS&Y valve and the devices as permitted in  
<https://codesonline.nfpa.org/code/40e1327d-3fd3-4a71-860f-4ec92a4bec89/e909aaad-4058-4ae1-9c1b-0a58441efe7a/np_58253fca-f642-11e7-914a-0547f3f12f9d.html#ID000200000544>
 4.29.3 shall be installed in the suction pipe within 50 ft (15.3 m) of the 
pump suction flange. 4.29.3 describes how to install a backflow preventer a 
minimum of 50 feet from the suction flange of the fire pump. 

I don’t find anywhere in NFPA 20 where it describes or allows a “Throttle 
Control Valve.

Mark at Aero

602 820-7894

 

 

 

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Timothy Goins
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:28 PM
To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Suction Control Valve

 

Please re-read my copied text from the
NFPA 20, it says shall be installed on the suction line. Not should, but shall. 

 

 

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On Jun 18, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Prahl, Craig/GVL <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

On marginal municipal water supplies where there is the chance that the fire 
pump could draw flows greater than what could be provided, the water purveyor 
will often request a suction control valve.  Basically, this throttles the flow 
from the pump and keeps the municipal system pressure from going negative.

 

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<mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Vince 
Sabolik
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 5:09 PM
To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> ; Brian Harris 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Suction Control Valve

 

Required by the water purveyor?

On 6/18/2019 4:40 PM, Brian Harris wrote:

I just got a quote for a pump on a project and they’ve (pump supplier) have 
included one. Most of the jobs I’ve done don’t have one…

 

Brian Harris, CET

BVS Systems Inc.

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From: Sprinklerforum  <mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET, 
CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:39 PM
To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: RE: Suction Control Valve

 

Every case I’ve had one is because the water purveyor required it.

 

 
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From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Brian 
Harris
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:39 PM
To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Suction Control Valve

 

Who/What determines when a Suction Control Valve is needed?

 

Brian Harris, CET

BVS Systems Inc.

Design Manager

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