Sometimes you just have to exercise judgement because it would be impossible to 
include every variation of everything that could occur in every situation 
within the text of a Standard.

Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | 
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From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of John Denhardt
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 9:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Storage of motorcycle tires

I guess Larry, myself, and anyone else attending the 2022 NFPA 13 meetings will 
try to clarify this item.

John

John August Denhardt, P.E.
Strickland Fire Protection

On Jul 15, 2019, at 9:07 AM, Kyle.Montgomery 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I agree, Larry. But I’m curious if anyone knows if the committee chose to 
specifically exclude those types of tires or if, like you’re suggesting, they 
just neglected to include them. The format of that definition is kind of weird, 
but maybe there was a purpose?

-Kyle M

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Larry Keeping
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 7:57 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Storage of motorcycle tires

This is just my opinion, but just because the definition doesn’t reference 
motorcycle tires (or ATV tires for that matter, or the one on my wheel barrow) 
doesn’t negate the fact that motorcycle tires are rubber tires. That definition 
doesn’t comply with the NFPA Manual of Style either, so the definition is 
definitely flawed.

However, in Chapter 18 of NFPA 13-2013 (for example) tires on racks on tread 
are covered, so I don’t think you really have a problem with design criteria.

Larry Keeping


From: Sprinklerforum 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 On Behalf Of David Bitton
Sent: July-12-19 4:34 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Storage of motorcycle tires

I am looking at a storage area for motorcycle tires on fixed racks on tread.  
NFPA 13 excludes such tires from its definition of rubber tires (FM 8-3 does 
not). I would like your opinion about how to determine protection criteria for 
this storage?  (Miscellaneous storage does not apply.)
Thanks,

David Bitton, ing./Eng.
Quest Loss Control Services Inc.
Les services de prévention des sinistres Quest
5100, rue de la Savane, bureau 200
Montréal, Québec
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