Bim modeling, that’s funny. Never seen it work yet…. Only thing its been god 
for is (your duct is in the way, we see you cant move, the model is wrong, let 
now reroute due to the conflict, oh and wait, its not a CO because this should 
have been caught during the bim modeling.) 

 

Great stuff with the GC’s pushing it off to try and cut the change orders out. 
Gotta love it.

 

 

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Exactly.  It’s all up in the air.  It was a BIM job and not an issue with 
anyone during coordination.  Now it’s all up in the air installed and seems to 
be an issue.  You can’t win some days.  Plus, it shouldn’t be an issue at all, 
but now it is.

 

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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Pipe adjacent to duct

 

Well it’s only a click of the mouse and it’s moved, so what’s your problem?   😉 

 

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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Pipe adjacent to duct

 

Lol. That’s too funny. Everyone thinks fire sprinkler can just magically move. 

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Hahahahaha

 

 

 

 

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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Pipe adjacent to duct

 

Just a question. If the duct is to close to the fire main why wouldn’t the duct 
have to move? Isn’t life safety more important than climate comfort?

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I am unaware of any language that would support the fire inspector’s position.

 

Thanks,

John

 

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Educate him.

 

Use your charm.

 

R/

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No seismic. No insulation. 

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Could it be related to seismic movement of unrestrained ductwork against the FP 
pipe?

 

When you say ductwork, is that ½” between pipe and insulation or actual sheet 
metal?  

 

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Pipe adjacent to duct

 

We have a project where the fire inspector is stating that the fire sprinkler 
main is too close to ductwork.  There is a 6” main that is about 1/2” from the 
ductwork. 

 

Of course, the inspectors response is “it’s in the code book” when asking for a 
reference that mandates clearance to hvac ductwork. 

 

Has anyone run into something similar?

 

Note: this is not a high temp duct that would cause for enough heat to convert 
the sprinkler water to steam. This is just your standard, run of the mill, HVAC 
system. 

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