What edition are you using? It is in the standard from 2013 and newer I believe.
Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, SET 480-505-9271 x700 MFP Design, LLC www.mfpdesign,com Send large files to MFP Design via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2020, at 8:27 AM, J H via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't doubt their efficacy or necessity - my question is essentially how do > you calculate an area that is not required to be sprinklered by the standard > in the first place and does not meet w/ the definition of a compartment? I'll > just go ahead and do a four head calc for this balcony like I always do but I > was wondering what others were doing. My second thought would be to just size > the piping to the balcony sprinklers using the same interior pipe sizes > without calculating it as it's own compartment. We've had similar situations > arise when jurisdictions required limited attic protection in 13D systems and > didn't give any guidance on how to calculate the required quick response > sprinklers they were requiring at the ridge. > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 4:33 PM Bruce Verhei via Sprinklerforum >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> https://www-dailyherald-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.dailyherald.com/amp-article/20200221/news/200229736/ >> >> Balcony fire, spk head. >> >>> On Mar 6, 2020, at 13:11, Pete Schwab via Sprinklerforum >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> We only calculate the single balcony in question. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Peter Schwab >>> >>> VP of Purchasing and Engineering technologies >>> >>> >>> >>> Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers Inc. >>> >>> 222 Capitol Court >>> >>> Ocoee, Fl 34761 >>> >>> >>> >>> Mobile: (407) 468-8248 >>> >>> Direct: (407) 877-5570 >>> >>> Fax: (407) 656-8026 >>> >>> >>> >>> www.waynefire.com >>> >>> >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>> >>> >>> >>> <image002.png> >>> >>> >>> >>> I sleep in a sprinklered home, do you? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On >>> Behalf Of J H via Sprinklerforum >>> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 3:52 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: J H <[email protected]> >>> Subject: How are you guys handling calcs for 13R balconies? >>> >>> >>> >>> I was wondering how you guys are handling calculations for 13R balconies >>> since the sprinklers aren't even required per 13R but are mandated by the >>> IBC? Treating it as a compartment in this case means I have to do a 4 head >>> calc when the rest of the project only requires 2 heads calculated due to >>> compartmentalization. It's not a big deal but kind of a bummer when you can >>> have really small pipe sizes for a project if it weren't for those pesky >>> guys on the balcony! >>> >>> >>> >>> J >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Virus-free. www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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