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Subject: Re: Minimum Lead-in Sizing

I think you just have to add domestic if under 4".

Matt
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What is the reference for a minimum 4"?  We've had several smaller than that 
over my career.  Never had an issue that I know of.



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Subject: Minimum Lead-in Sizing



Hi all - I've got a customer that's in a pinch and I'm trying to help them out. 
 They have a 2" lead in supplying an existing building, mixed use 
commercial/residential.  NFPA 13 protection on 2 floors.  The 2" will actually 
calculate as it sits.  My question for those that have run into the "minimum 
pipe size is 4" requirement from an AHJ before, on a 13 system, what argument 
have you used to contradict the statement?



The ASTM standards listed in the underground piping tables of 13 for brass, 
copper, and stainless piping all include/cover pipe sizes smaller than 4".  
Section 23.4.1.3 (2016 edition) states that pipe sizing shall only be limited 
by available water supply.



Any other good arguments out there?



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