How does the forum treat ESFR sprinklers when there is a wall added in the 
warehouse which creates the heads on one side to be too far away but when you 
add a new line it puts the ESFR sprinklers too close together?  Some times 
there is that perfect storm where you can’t move the existing line over because 
over spacing / under spacing.  In the past we have staggered the ESFR 
sprinklers on the new line to make the 8ft away on the diagonal. 

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> On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:17 PM, James Crawford via Sprinklerforum 
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> 
> Rack storage is what the building is being used for.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> James Crawford
> Phaser Fire Protection Ltd.
> Phone 604-888-0318
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 3:16 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Prahl, Craig/GVL <[email protected]>; Gregg Fontes 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: ESFR and Obstructed Construction
> 
> What is the ESFR system design basis?  Racks or other storage or what?
> 
> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME - Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | 
> [email protected] | www.jacobs.com
> 1041 East Butler Road   Greenville, South Carolina  29606
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Gregg Fontes via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 5:27 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Gregg Fontes <[email protected]>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: ESFR and Obstructed Construction
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> With a 36' high building, the max spacing would be 10' apart and the esfr is 
> 6' apart due to the beams. This is a 60 sq. ft. coverage area.  The esfr cut 
> sheet state a minimum area of 64 sq. ft.,  64 sq. ft.  x (12) esfr is 768 sq. 
> ft. minimum design area, would you have to add an esfr fire sprinkle in the 
> calc to meet the 768 sq. ft. area or esfr are not allowed due to not meeting 
> the 64 sq. ft. minimum per esfr sprinkler?
> 
> Thanks,
> Gregg Fontes
> Cen-Cal Fire Systems, Inc.
> 209-334-9119
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of James Crawford via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 12:54 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: James Crawford <[email protected]>
> Subject: ESFR and Obstructed Construction
> 
> I am looking at a building 36" high that is using beams for the roof 
> construction, they are spaced at 6'-0" on center and are 24" deep.
> 
> The sprinkler design is asking for ESFR but I am not sure if this will work, 
> I know we can use ESFR in obstructed construction but my understanding is the 
> heads location still needs to comply with the listing.
> 
> So based on this I would need a head in every bay created by the beams and 
> the head would need to be 14" or 18" max from the deck.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> 
> Thank You
> 
> James Crawford
> Phaser Fire Protection Ltd.
> Phone 604-888-0318
> Cel: 604-790-0938
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