Yes, the commodity is exposed and unexpanded and 2016 is the current
edition in Montana.

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On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 8:14 AM Ken Wagoner <k...@parsleyconsulting.com>
wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I believe your conclusions regarding the commodity are spot on, with one
> other item to note that the plastics were "unexpanded", and "exposed."
> After that it would depend on which edition of the standard is applicable
> in your area.
>
> From what you've described the criteria from the 2016 edition is likely
> shown in Figure 17.2.1.4(k), it would be 0.80 gpm over 1500 ft², with one
> level of closely spaced in rack sprinklers.  That is based on using CMDA
> sprinklers.  If you were to select CMSA sprinklers table 17.2.2.1 would
> appear to give the correct criteria.  If your choice was ESFR's then Table
> 17.2.3.1 would apply.
>
> It would likely be covered in chapter 21 of the '19 edition, §21.5 for
> CMDA, §22.5 for CMSA, and §23.6 for ESFR's.
>
> I would echo the thoughts of Bruce Verhei.  I can't imagine that there
> hasn't been testing done by that entity for protection of their products.
> To that end it would likely be shown in §24.3 if the '19.
>
> hope that's of some help,
> *Ken Wagoner, SET*
>
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> On 4/11/2022 8:08 PM, Joe Burtell wrote:
>
> I would appreciate the forum's opinion of the typical warehouse for the
> brand-name soda manufacturers. I consider the following to be a group A
> plastic commodity:
> Less than 5 gallons, of non-combustible liquid in a PET bottle, stacked on
> a plastic tray to an overall height of about 5'-0", encapsulated around the
> sides on a plastic non-reinforced pallet.
>
> These will then will be placed in racks to a top height of storage of
> 20'-0" with a roof deck of 34'-0", with 8'-0 aisles.
>
> I do not have the MSDA sheets on the bottles, or the trays yet. I am
> guessing some of you have done designs for these before.
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS*
>
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