This is often my approach as well, if they’re a known unreasonable AHJ let the client fight the battle, if it’s worth fighting, their wallet will often go further whether they open it or not (big tax payer/developer of the area carries a lot of clout without spending a nickle), and if they go over someone’s head it’s not necessarily going to blow back on the contractor.
Mike Morey CFPS 3229 • NICET S.E.T. 123677 Project Manager • Fire Protection Group Shambaugh & Son, LP an EMCOR Company 7614 Opportunity Drive • Fort Wayne, IN • 46825 direct 260.487.7824 / cell 260.417.0625 / fax 260.487.7991 email [email protected] [cid:[email protected]] From: Brett Peters <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 4:01 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <[email protected]> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: CPVC Exposed In these situations I always go back to the GC or building owner, project was bid to code and there was no disclosure of the AHJ’s requirements above (or different) than code, submit an extra and have the people that have to pay the bill go ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message originated outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd In these situations I always go back to the GC or building owner, project was bid to code and there was no disclosure of the AHJ’s requirements above (or different) than code, submit an extra and have the people that have to pay the bill go after the AHJ. Sometimes when someone’s lawyer gets involved over additional costs they change their mind. Other than that, not much you can do with someone who can’t be reasoned with On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 1:52 PM Travis Mack <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Good afternoon all. I’m trying to help a contractor with an issue he is having with an AHJ. I will say that this AHJ has been a challenge on many other projects. He has had informal interpretations from NFSA and AFSA about other issues and this AHJ just says they are all wrong and he is the only one that sees how the standard is correctly interpreted. So, it is likely a mute point to push another issue with them, but: Is it permissible to install exposed CPVC in a mechanical closet of ±40 sq ft? Light hazard, the piping can be installed exposed provided that certain criteria are met with sprinklers, spacing, etc. The listings go on to state that CPVC can be installed in ordinary hazard compartments of otherwise light hazard buildings, etc.. This is just a weird project where it was much easier to put a pendent sprinkler 6” off the wall than get a sidewall in the room. The CPVC piping is exposed for about 6” going into the room. This AHJ is having them rip it all out, cut out the drywall and drop down with a sidewall. I believe they were pinned high in the adjoining room and couldn’t readily drop down to get the sidewall minimum distance down from the ceiling, or something like that. Travis Mack, SET M.E.P.CAD | 181 N. Arroyo Grande Blvd. #105 I Henderson, NV 89074<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.google.com/maps/search/181*N.*Arroyo*Grande*Blvd.**A23105*I*Henderson,*NV*89074?entry=gmail&source=g__;KysrKyslKysrKw!!FaxH778!cJcJMCD7QLftLgc8ct7DolvN666s5PPimvPxluz-NwnQ8rHfDZ_nx0QqfZ4K0rJiphJmqvUcUetOAq8Wwg$> www.mepcad.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.mepcad.com/__;!!FaxH778!cJcJMCD7QLftLgc8ct7DolvN666s5PPimvPxluz-NwnQ8rHfDZ_nx0QqfZ4K0rJiphJmqvUcUevB7LG8XA$> | m: 480.547.9348 AutoSPRINK | AutoSPRINK FAB | AutoSPRINK RVT | AlarmCAD Book appointment time in my calendar https://calendly.com/t_mack_mepcad<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/calendly.com/t_mack_mepcad__;!!FaxH778!cJcJMCD7QLftLgc8ct7DolvN666s5PPimvPxluz-NwnQ8rHfDZ_nx0QqfZ4K0rJiphJmqvUcUetJPR0hIQ$> _________________________________________________________ SprinklerForum mailing list: https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org__;!!FaxH778!cJcJMCD7QLftLgc8ct7DolvN666s5PPimvPxluz-NwnQ8rHfDZ_nx0QqfZ4K0rJiphJmqvUcUesyx2D1nw$> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> -- Thank You Brett Peters PFPS Ltd (780) 777 0568 Sent From My iPhone This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.
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