Assuming it is just an EOR requirement, and the EOR says install them, then they should be installed - (I am not addressing this from a monetary standpoint). However, the EOR has to clarify HOW to install them specifically as it is outside the scope of the adopted standards/codes. What size hose valve, flow and pressure requirements, Manual, Automatic, Wet, Dry, etc. Where does the actual design criteria for the hose valve come from?
Give them a price for a fire pump and interconnected standpipes and see how that sits with them. On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 8:13 AM Fpdcdesign <[email protected]> wrote: > It is worth noting that the EOR (assumed in this case to be the specifying > engineer) can request things that are beyond what the Code requires. Codes > are a minimum, not an absolute. > > That being said, you should be able to get the “permit review comments”. > Not sure who did them but it would seem that the AHJ would be doing them > considering they issue the permits. Sounds more like the engineer’s review > rephrased to make it sounds more mandatory. > > I would push back to the GC and tell him you can’t complete your work > without a copy of those comments. Put the onus on them. > > > > On Jan 23, 2024 at 9:01 AM, <Travis Mack <[email protected]>> wrote: > > What is the height of the top floor? What is the occupancy > classification? Go through 905 in the fire code and see what it says about > standpipes. From similar projects I have done over the years, I have not > seen them required. But, your local fire code will dictate. > > > > > > Travis Mack, SET > > *M.E.P.CAD* | Instructor / Support > > 181 N. Arroyo Grande Blvd. #105 I Henderson, NV 89074 > > www.mepcad.com | *m: 480.547.9348*|* Whatspp: +14805479348* > > *Email: [email protected] <[email protected]>* > > > > *AutoSPRINK | AutoSPRINK FAB | AutoSPRINK RVT | AlarmCAD* > > > > *From:* James Litvak <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:55 AM > *To:* AFSA Sprinkler Forum <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Hose Valves in Townhome Apartments > > > > I am designing an NFPA 13 mid-rise apartment building that includes > three townhome-style two-floor apartments. The EOR put a note on the FP > plans to locate a hose valve on each floor of those units "AS REQUIRED." I > didn't put them on my plans because I have never seen them required in > similar units in other buildings. The EOR's review comments came back > saying "Fire Protection permit review indicated hose valves required in > 2-story units." I have requested the fire protection permit review comments > and was told by the GC it is unlikely we'll receive them, and that I should > just include those valves. My plans were approved by the AHJ without those > valves. It is the EOR now refusing to accept my plans without the valves. > > > > Are those valves required? > _________________________________________________________ SprinklerForum > mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > [email protected] > > > _________________________________________________________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > [email protected] -- Greg McGahan *Genesis Fire Services, LLC* *4912 Glover Lane. Milton, FL **32570* *P- 850-637-8535* *C- 850-712-9555*
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