Hi Carlos, 

Great for points 1 and 2. Sorry for the third one (Matlab cell feature). It 
seems indeed to involve more coding than I expected. 
For the last issue with the spyder.block folder, I only observe this 
behavior with windows XP. It works nicely with Ubuntu 12.04. A way to 
reproduce it with windows is to kill the main python process from the task 
manager and to restart spyder. pywin32 is installed (PythonXY 2.7.3). I run 
spyder 2.2rc from the bootstrap script. However, a reason for this issue 
could be that spyder's folder is on a network drive. I will make some tests 
tomorrow. 

Best, 

Sylvain

On Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:20:35 PM UTC-4, Carlos Córdoba wrote:
>
>  Hi Sylvain,
>
> Thanks for your patches and suggestions. My detailed answers are below:
>
> El 10/04/13 17:35, Sylvain Corlay escribió:
>  
> Hi everyone,  
>
>  Here are a couple of issues in the release candidate. 
>
>  *1) When using "run selection"*
>
>  Create a new .py file with the code
>  
>
>  # No indentation between 'print i' and 'print i+1'
>
> for i in range(10):
>
>     print i
>
> *
> *
>
>     print i+1
>
> *
> *
>
> Put the focus on a regular python console (not ipython), select all the 
> text in the editor and use the  "run selection or current block" button. 
>
> This yields an indentation error. This can probably be considered as a 
> bug. 
>  
>
>  *Fix:* In base.py (widgets/sourcecode) line 416
>
>
>          # If there is a common indent to all lines, remove it
>
>         min_indent = 999
>
>         current_indent = 0
>
>         lines = text.split(ls)
>
>         for i in xrange(len(lines)):
>
>             line = lines[i]
>
>             if line.strip():
>
>                 current_indent = _indent(line)
>
>                 min_indent = min(current_indent, min_indent)
>
>             else:
>
>                 lines[i] = ' ' * current_indent
>
>         text = ls.join([line[min_indent:] for line in lines])
>
> *
> *
>
> It solves the problem for me. The number of space characters added to 
> empty lines has to be the current indentation, for the case of nested 
> loops. 
>  
>
> Yeah, I was thinking something like this would solve the problem. Thanks a 
> lot for the patch, I'll review it later this week.
>
>  *2) Editor widget and debug toolbar*
>
> *
> *
>
> The debug toolbar items are missing when separating the editor dock from 
> the main window. 
>
>  *Fix:* In editor.py (plugins) line 903 
> *
> *
>         self.dock_toolbar_actions = file_toolbar_actions + [None] + \
>                                      source_toolbar_actions + [None] + \
>                                     run_toolbar_actions + [None] + \
>                                     debug_toolbar_actions +  [None] + \
>                                     edit_toolbar_actions
>  
>
>   
> Again, thanks for the patch. This seems a harmless addition, so I'll add 
> it this weekend too.
>
>  *3) Regarding issue 
> 852<https://code.google.com/p/spyderlib/issues/detail?id=852&q=MS%3Dv2.3&colspec=ID%20MS%20Stars%20Priority%20Modified%20Cat%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary>
> *
>
>
>  With the first point corrected as mentioned above, the "hack" of 
> mixins.py documented already does the job to add the Matlab-like cell 
> feature. So I don't really see why one should consider it as a hack, or why 
> it would be less maintainable than the current version. 
>  
>
>  -            text = unicode(cursor0.selectedText()) 
>
> -            return len(text.strip()) == 0 or text.lstrip()[0] == '#' 
>
> +            text = unicode(cursor0.selectedText()).lstrip() 
>
> +            return text[:2] == '# %%' or text[:12] == '# <codecell>'
>
> The thing is that with this modification, the behavior will already be the 
> one you want eventually, and this Matlab-like cell feature is the most 
> popular feature request in the tracker. To be rigorous, "block" should be 
> replaced by "cell" in doc strings, functions names, and menus. 
>  
>
> I disagree with you on this point. I think we need to maintain "Run 
> selection" as a feature and add "Run cell" as a new one. This is my 
> reasoning: I want Spyder remains as beginner friendly as possible, so if 
> you want to select some text and send it to the console, that should still 
> be possible too. Also, if you want to run consecutive chunks of code 
> separated by blank lines (as it's the case now), that should be possible 
> too. I'm not so sure about block separation using '#'. I think once cells 
> are in we are going to eliminate it, as you're suggesting with our patch.
>
>  I know that Carlos wants to add some graphical visualization of the 
> cells in the editor (horizontal lines and coloring), but with this 
> modification, the behavior of Spyder 2.2 would already be more consistent 
> with what you guys want to do in 2.3.
>  
>
> It's not only that I want to add visual clues to cells. There are several 
> things to consider:
>
> 1. Since "Run cell" is a new feature, it'll need a new icon in the Run 
> toolbar and of course a new action in the menus. We would need to add some 
> docs about it too.
>
> 2. Cells should not be allowed inside indented code (e.g for/while loops). 
> Someone mentioned that Matlab follows this principle and I think it's a 
> good one, i.e. cells must enclose full code chunks.
>
> 3. We need to decide what happens when one adds only one cell separator. 
> In that case I would like that Spyder ran all lines from the file's 
> beginning to the separator if the cursor is before it, or from the 
> separator to the end if the cursor is after it (I don't know how Matlab 
> handles this case).
>
> These points are not covered by your patch, so we (the devs) would need to 
> put more time on it (which don't have right now). Look, I don't want to be 
> stubborn here. If you make my points work and the feature is well tested, 
> I'll have no problem merging your work during the 2.2 cycle (let's say in 
> 2.2.1 or .2). The visual cell clues and all that could be added in 2.3.
>
>  *4) No warning in the case of presence of lock files*
>
>
>  If spyder crashes and spyder.lock directory remains, spyder won't start 
> again, and no error message is displayed. It just fails to start. Maybe a 
> their should be at least an error message in the console or even better a 
> pop-up window.
>  
>
> This is very serious. Under what circumstances is this happening to you? I 
> was very careful at selecting a lock mechanism that was able to launch 
> Spyder again if there is a crash. In Issue 1325 we discovered it won't work 
> on Windows if you don't have pywin32 installed. But on Linux and Mac it 
> should work as expected.
>
> Could you give us a reproducible test case?
>
>  Finally, I would really like to thank Carlos, Pierre and Jed for their 
> incredible work on this IDE. I think that spyder 2.2 will really become a 
> reference. You guys are going to become as famous as the creators of 
> ipython, or numpy. Spyder was the missing link in the scientific python 
> world and you created it. 
>  
>
> Thanks a lot for your kind words. We think that too: that something like 
> Spyder was missing to complete the Python scientific stack.
>
> Cheers,
> Carlos
>
>  Cheers,
>
>
>  Sylvain
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