Hi, Yes I meant : "Ipython shell from within spyder".
Your Macports installation of spyder looks perfect : all 'utf-8' Your initial results seem a natural consequence of the mixture of 'ascii', 'ISO8859-1' and '', in the other installations. Le dimanche 8 septembre 2013 14:33:31 UTC+2, Pierre-Henri a écrit : > > Hi, > > I don't know what you mean by spyder ipython QT console… but if you do > mean a ipython shell from within spyder, yes, I confirm it works as > expected with entering unicode strings in interactive mode, as I wrote in > my previous message. (No problem either when I run ipython from a terminal) > > Pierre-Henri > > Le 8 sept. 2013 à 14:14, [email protected] <javascript:> a écrit : > > Hi, > > Did you try with Spyder Ipython QT console (still under 2.7 ) ? > Under a pc, It seems to work a little more "as expected", so maybe also > under a Mac. > > *** experiment ******** > In [1]: s = 'é' ; t=u'é' ; print (s);print (len(s));print (t);print > (len(t)) > ...: > é > 2 > é > 1 > > In [2] > *** end of experiment ******** > > Le dimanche 8 septembre 2013 12:19:42 UTC+2, Pierre-Henri a écrit : >> >> >> Le 8 sept. 2013 à 11:32, [email protected] a écrit : >> >> Hi Pierre-Henri >> >> You see an inconsistency between 'python2.7' and 'spyder python2.7' >> behaviour. >> >> '\xe9' is the code of "é" in 'latin1'. >> '\xc3\xa9' is the code of "é" in unicode 'utf-8' >> >> >> Yep, my understanding (I might well be wrong) is that when displaying >> unicode strings in interactive mode (but not by using print where accents >> are shown), python writes accents using latin1 encoding, but that does not >> tell us much about internal representation of the said string. >> >> >> Try this , so we can see if you have indeed a 'latin1' or 'cp1252' >> showing up somewhere in your config. >> >> >>>import locale;import >> sys;print(locale.getdefaultlocale(),locale.getpreferredencoding(),sys.getdefaultencoding()) >> >> >> Done. It is mostly a repeat of my remarks about os.environ : >> >> So, in a python shell in the terminal, I get : >> (('fr_FR', 'UTF-8'), 'UTF-8', 'ascii') >> >> In the python shell within spyder installed from the dmg (spyder.app) : >> (('en_US', 'ISO8859-1'), '', 'ISO8859-1') >> >> (same output, running spyder.app, within an ipython console) >> >> That might well be the explanation, except that despite using the same >> (wrong ?) environment, ipython correctly translates the string I write, >> where I suppose it gets UTF-8 strings, and furthermore : >> In a macports installed version of spyder, run from the terminal (so with >> a correct environment) I do get instead : >> (('fr_FR', 'UTF-8'), 'UTF-8', 'UTF-8') >> >> And the behavior is the same there than with spyder.app… >> >> It might be related, or not at all, to the bug Pierre Raybaut wrote about >> in winpython list : >> "The fact that Unicode characters tend to be rendered badly when the >> script has been executed in the current console is a known bug." >> >> Btw, the bug (if I may call it as such) only happens when the strings are >> entered in interactive mode, and only within a python console, not ipython. >> No such problem when it is within a module : suppose I import a module >> with the following fonction : >> def my_string(): >> return u'é' >> >> and, in interactive mode, I define : >> >>> s = my_string() >> >> then the length of s is 1, as expected, and not the 2 I get when I write >> : s = u'é' instead… >> >> Not that I do get the same confusing results with spyder running within >> ubuntu, and as the windows 7 and 8 now uses UTF-8 I bet (but can't test) >> that it is the same with those versions of windows. >> >> Pierre-Henri Jondot >> >> >> Le jeudi 5 septembre 2013 14:40:02 UTC+2, Pierre-Henri a écrit : >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> My computer is running osx 10.8.4, localized in french (LANG = >>> fr_FR.UTF-8) >>> >>> In a python (2.7) console (not within spyder) launched in a terminal, I >>> get >>> >>> s = 'é' ; s; len(s) >>> '\xc3\xa9' >>> 2 >>> >>> >>> s = u'é'; s; len(s) >>> u'\xe9' >>> 1 >>> >>> I get the same result within an iPython console, within spyder. >>> >>> But, within spyder, in a python console, I do get this instead : >>> >>> s = 'é' ; s; len(s) >>> '\xc3\xa9' >>> 2 >>> >>> >>> s = u'é'; s; len(s) >>> '\xc3\xa9' >>> 2 >>> >>> I suspected the LANG environment variable was the reason, as within >>> spyder (2.2.1 DMG), from the output of os.environ, I get en_US for LANG >>> instead, but when I run from the terminal a port installed 2.2.2 spyder, in >>> which os.environ shows fr_FR.UTF-8 for the LANG env variable, I get the >>> same strange (for me) result than the last one quoted above, so that is not >>> the explanation. >>> >>> So what could be the explanation for this difference ? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Pierre-Henri >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "spyder" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/spyderlib/v5ELu04_DXU/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/spyderlib. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "spyder" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/spyderlib/v5ELu04_DXU/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/spyderlib. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "spyder" group. 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