Anatoly, the main usability problem with GoogleCode (as Joseph mentioned) is the lack of a good pull requests interface. That's what's making our new potential contributors (like Joseph himself and Thomas Kluyver) to stay away from doing it.

I think there is no other way to address this issue than by moving our main repo to another service, because GoogleCode is showing not signs of improvement.

El 14/11/13 03:29, Joseph Martinot-Lagarde escribió:


Le jeudi 14 novembre 2013 01:15:27 UTC+1, anatoly techtonik a écrit :

    On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:53:56 PM UTC+3, Joseph
    Martinot-Lagarde wrote:

        The discussion on
        https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/spyderlib/5tw2ZItlxUM
        <https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/spyderlib/5tw2ZItlxUM>
        remind me of
        http://code.google.com/p/spyderlib/issues/detail?id=816
        <http://code.google.com/p/spyderlib/issues/detail?id=816>.
        Google code clearly lacks functionalities compared to
        Bitbucket and Github (the main one being pull requests, I
        think). In addition to this is the eventuality to shift to git
        instead of mercurial.


    Both GitHub and BitBucket has awful interface, which is confusing
    for new users, who may not be Github clients. I am speaking about
    wiki pages. Issue trackers are also very limited compared to
    Google Code.


Well it's a matter of taste, I don't like google code interface at all. Wiki pages is a minor inconvenient (if any) compared to the usability of pull requests. I had problems to write the first post here: on each new line if would switch back to bold. Yay for the interface ;)

        From the tip of my head, here are the pros and cons I can find
        for each service :

        *Bitbucket/Mercurial
        *+ Uses mercurial and git. This allows to keep mercurial as VCS.
        + TortoiseHg

        - less users

    + simple
    + free private repositories


True, but private repos is not a concern for spyder.

        *Github/Git
        *- Git only
        + numpy, scipy, ipython and matplotlib use it
        + more users
        - tracker data has a proprietary format (but is it important ?)*
        *

        There is also the possibility to have read/write mirror I
        guess, but I have no clue of how it works...*
        *


    Pull from Bitbucket, commit to Google Code, and it is synced
    around. No read/write mirror is possible without auto merges.

        Why I prefer Git over Mercurial :
        + 2-stage commits helps to check the correctness of commits

    2-stage commits really suxx. Use `hg record` if you're unsure
    about what you're committing.


It sux for you maybe, but it is very logical to me to first choose the modifications you want to commit, then validate the commit. It fits my workflow very well. Thanks for `hg record`, it seems to be a direct equivalent.

        + easy selection line by line or block by block instead of
        whole files for commits (using git gui)


    'hg record', no GUI required.


GUI is not required, it just makes it easier. I usually prefer a good gui to any command line. (Sadly good gui is not that common.)


        + git stash


    Mercurial queues or "hg diff > stash"

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