Typing is painfully slow in Spyder with Mavericks.  There are bug reports 
on this and the fix appears to be getting a new QT runtime from home-brew.

But, this makes the stack of dependencies way too steep.  I am trying to do 
a clean Mac install without macports or homebrew.

I am also not using the spider dmg package, although I could go back to it, 
because I want to minimize redundant installation (the package includes its 
own python, qt, and every other dependency). I realize I can get the spyder 
package to use the "real" python install on the path.  But, I would like 
everything to be the same version--this seems like a key requirement of a 
"clean" install.

It appears that QT 5.1 or 5.2 has solved this problem.  But, there is no 
pyside for QT 5.x.  I could just go to PYQT, no biggee.   But, the latest 
pyqt for Mac only supports an older 5.1.

So, the dependency stack kills us all on Mac, which is supposed to be the 
"better" environment compared to Windows. But, Python on windows has none 
of these breaking issues (see also the silly tcl issue that requires tcl 
8.5.15.1, but not 8.16.1 because the python won't bind to the latter...).

What we need is a fixed QT 4.8; or pyside needs to catch up to the latest 
QT runtimes.  Probably unreasonable to back port the fix to QT 4.8.  More 
reasonable to expect pyside to catchup.

Is there any hope of this?  (Please don't say it's open source--just pitch 
in!)  I can't become an instantaneos QT/Pyside maintainer.  These are big 
complex code bases and the core team of developers probably needs to take 
this on.  Or, the easiest thing could be just concede and use the 
spider.dmg package.  That will get me going the fastest, but it WON'T solve 
the mess that is Python on the mac.

Probably, a group that cares about python on the mac should get a bit of 
support from Apple and offer to maintain clean consistent latest stable 
version distros of the most crucial components (the binary components, 
mostly--python source is much less of a problem obviously).  Should this be 
under the aegis of the Python Software Foundation?

Thanks,
Lewis 

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