In Egypt , I can transfere credit notes from customers to suppliers , (without 
passing through my bank)
I just take the note from the customer and clarify it on the back so that my 
supplier would take it and cash it in time )
That is why I made an account called notes in possesion, and when I receive a 
note from a customer I consider it as a payment and when I give it to a supplier 
i consider it as a payment , and from the account listing I know the ammount of 
notes I have in my safebox.
Omar

7/4/02 05:46:21 �, Steve Doerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi Richard.
>
>Richard Lyons wrote:
>
>> Steve:  Thanks.  But I was unable to access the demo properly.  When I
>> clicked on any report on the menu panel, I got:
>>
>>    Error!
>>
>>    Can't locate users/demo.conf in @INC (@INC contains:
>>    /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5
>>    /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1
>>    /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /var/www/cgi-bin/sql-ledger/menu.pl line 65.
>
>Thanks for telling me.  I had a couple of those and I'm looking into it.  Just
>try again, it's still there.
>
>> Anyway, I think the credit note problem is a little different.  It is in fact
>> easy to enter a credit note -- it is just a matter of entering an invoice
>> using a negative amount.
>>
>> 3 examples:
>> (a) one issued by a supplier to cancel from an already issued invoice an
>>    item which has been returned - this will be used to partially pay the
>>    invoice
>> (b) one issued by a supplier to cancel a whole invoice
>> (c) one issued by a supplier to recognise some other damage which may
>>    result in a credit great enough to "pay" more than one invoice and
>>    may including partially paying another invoice (I had one that offset
>>    roughly three and two thirds invoices)
>>
>> The problem is that when using the "payments" routine, there is no way to mark
>> the debit and credit amounts that offset one another except to use a cheque
>> to pay them.  This then results in the case (a) in the bank account showing a
>> larger credit for the whole invoice and a debit for the credit note, rather
>> than the actual amount of the cheque paid.  In (b) you have to invent a
>> non-existent cheque and pay both the invoice and the credit note with it,
>> creating two spurious entries in the bank account listing.  In (c) you get a
>> stack of virtual credits and a debit to cancel a proportion of it, rather
>> than the actual amount of the cheque paid.  All of this makes the apparent
>> turnover of expenses higher than it really is.  What one needs to do is
>> simply credit the accounts payable (which the use of a negative amount as
>> above succeeds in doing) and then to mark the component transactions (of
>> which there are three in case (a), two in case (b) and many in case (c)) as
>> closed.  So what we really need is a tick box for "closed" in the payments
>> screen and a routine that will check that the items ticked do in fact
>> balance.  An added help would be if SL recognised the negative amounts and
>> printed some indication that they are credit notes (or even just put them in
>> red).
>
>I paid the Fred Flintstone invoices 12245 and 4421 with check number 1234 on the
>demo.  In reality, these credits (and debits for A/P) and taken on a check.  The
>systems of the people you're doing business with should do this also.
>
>You get a $75 check to pay invoice 12245 for $125, and invoice 4421 for -$50.
>Both are closed with the receipt of the one check.  The check stub should detail
>the invoices being settled with the check.  They should be plugging their credit
>memo, for example, into their A/P system just like a positive invoice and
>actually pay it on some check.
>
>Play around with some of these on the demo and post back to the list referring 
to
>a certain transaction if you don't think it handles it correctly and I'll look 
at
>it.
>
>>Why is it so complicated to explain simple thoughts about bookkeeping?
>
>There's a reason accounting is a degree program at most colleges/universities,
>;-).
>
>Good luck,
>Steve
>
>
>
>>
>> --
>> richard
>>
>> On Wednesday 03 July 2002 23:46, Steve Doerr wrote:
>> > I set up a service called "credit memo" (number - cm) on the Kansas City
>> demo.
>> > Zero list/sell price and I unchecked the tax boxes at the bottom.  I
>> invoiced the
>> > customer Fred Flintstone for the service "credit memo" for a negative $50 -
>> tax
>> > included unchecked.  In reality, you will probably, but not necessarily, be
>> > crediting some previously charged tax, but I wanted a clean example to show
>> how
>> > this might work.
>> >
>> > I think this will accomplish what you want to do a little cleaner than
>> journal
>> > entries/other workarounds because if you invoice this negative amount,
>> there it is
>> > associated w/ the customer.
>> >
>> > Please feel free to go to the KC demo and set up a similar invoice/credit
>> > situation and see if you're comfortable with how it works.  Watch your
>> taxes,
>> > discounts, and G/L accounts on these and consider your due date for aging
>> > purposes.
>> >
>> > You should be able to apply a similar approach to A/P with a "debit memo"
>> service.
>> >
>> > The demo's url:
>> > http://accounting.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/sql-ledger/login.pl
>> >
>> > Good luck,
>> > Steve
>>
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