Oh, and here are some other restrictions from section four of the "Open"
MFG license--I particularly like 4.7:

 4. Prohibitions. You are not permitted to do any of the following with
the Software:

      4.1. Distribute a source code version of the Software containing
your Contributions;
      4.2. Distribute your Contributions to any party other than
OpenMFG;
      4.3. Distribute or redistribute a compiled binary version of the
Software in its original or modified form;
      4.4. Process or permit to be processed any other party=92s data for
a fee or other consideration;
      4.5. Use the Software in the operation of a service bureau;
      4.6. Provide consulting services related to developing,
installing, implementing, or training for the use, modification, or
distribution of the Software to any party outside of your business for a
fee;
      4.7. Develop or contribute to the development of a software
application that competes with the Software; or
4.8. Charge any fee beyond the costs of data transfer for the
distribution or redistribution of the Software in accordance with this
license.=20
On Fri, 2002-10-25 at 19:18, Matt Benjamin wrote:
> Ned,
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> As I read your license text, it explicitly forbids anyone who makes a
> code modification from releasing the source for that modification to
> anyone except your company, at the same time as it mandates that the
> code be returned to your company.  Did I misread the license?  If not,
> it seems like vendor lock-in (to your company) is by no means avoided.=20
> I hope I did misread it. =20
>=20
> Matt
>=20
> On Fri, 2002-10-25 at 17:42, Ned Lilly wrote:
> >=20
> > Hello all,
> >=20
> > Thanks for the kind words.  All very accurate points, below.  OpenMFG i=
s =3D
> > not free, and it's not "open source" according to the OSI definitions. =
 =3D
> > It is, however, a very sophisticated MRP/ERP application - 400,000+ =3D
> > lines of Qt/C++ and business logic in the PostgreSQL procedural =3D
> > language.  Our goal in writing our own license was to build something =
=3D
> > that would give our partner resellers and consultants not just the =3D
> > flexibility to work with the code around the edges, but the financial =
=3D
> > incentive to make significant contributions to ongoing development as =
=3D
> > well.  And of course, since we're built on top of Linux/PostgreSQL/Qt, =
=3D
> > freedom from vendor lock-in (including us - all customers get source) i=
s =3D
> > a big part of our story.
> >=20
> > We'd invite anyone with a manufacturing/ERP business focus to come chec=
k =3D
> > us out.  And since our Standard product interfaces to a third-party =3D
> > accounting package, we'd love to work with the SL community if there ar=
e =3D
> > situations where a mix-and-match might be appropriate for particular =
=3D
> > customer needs.
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> >=20
> > Ned Lilly
> > OpenMFG, LLC
> >=20
> >=20
> > > With regards the "openmfg"=3D20
> > > Please take note though, that it may be open source, it isn't free. =
=3D
> > The
> > > license is not GPL or one of its derivatives, but their own brew. Tha=
t
> > > said, while they keep a tight reign on the software the license is no=
t
> > > exactly overly harsh. And after reading their literature, and from my
> > > own experience the QT base upon which it stands is however, the best
> > > possible option they could have chosen for performance and
> > > cross-platform capability. If the rest of the application is as good =
=3D
> > as
> > > they say, it should quickly stand out from the crowd.
> > >=3D20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:sql-ledger-users-bounce@;freelists.org] On Behalf Of Finance
> > > Sent: 24 October 2002 17:55
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [SL] Re: Fwd: What we would like to see...=3D20
> > >=3D20
> > >=3D20
> > > Holy smoke, just registered, but if this is half of what it promises =
=3D
> > to
> > > be I do not see any reason why people pay millions for SAP and the
> > > likes! Open source and interface with any other accounting package as
> > > well, sounds too good to be true.
> > > Just registered and surely going to look into this. Thanks!
> > >=3D20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:sql-ledger-users-bounce@;freelists.org] On Behalf Of Roderick =
=3D
> > A. Anderson
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:14 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [SL] Re: Fwd: What we would like to see...=3D20
> > >=3D20
> > >=3D20
> > >=3D20
> > > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Michael Stares wrote:
> > >=3D20
> > > > Then someone who wants a manufacturing ERP would install:
> > > > 1) SL=3D20
> > > > 2) the manufacturing app (basically enhanced inventory functionalit=
y
> > > > and a new works order table + functionality).
> > > > 3) my proposed MRP Server algorithm to perform PO and WO generation
> > > > for factories with complex products.
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Anyone interested in establishing a project to develop the=3D20
> > > > manufacturing app (as developers)?
> > >=3D20
> > >         http://www.openmfg.com/
> > >=3D20
> > >=3D20
> --=20
>=20
> Matt Benjamin
>=20
> The Linux Box
> 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150
> Ann Arbor, MI  48104
>=20
> tel. 734-761-4689
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> cel. 734-216-5309
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