can i make the mapper.someproperty.get_join() to return aliased 
version somehow? maybe copy the mapper?

> taking a look, i think what you should do is use an alias of the
> table_Employee in your queries.  since the engineer mapper is using
> joined table inheritance, the default table_Employee is already
> going to be involved in the query, so your external join condition
> needs to be off a distinct alias of it to prevent mixups.
>

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