Great.  This gives us a very good reason to shift everything we have
to Pylons.  I like the fact that Pylons gives us that controller as I
think that control is very important in developing a robust
application.  I want to know what goes one versus having the framework
do everything for me.  Moving to pylons now.

Sam.

On Jun 30, 3:36 pm, "Noah Gift" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/30/07, Michael Bayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 4:41 pm, SamDonaldson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I wrote a custom query and selected a few columns out of a table.  I
> > > then wanted to 'instantiatize' it so that i could reference the
> > > attributes as an object so I did that by calling the constructor of
> > > the sqlalchemy class that maps to the table.  Now, I believe, since
> > > these classes were instantiated, sqlalchemy will try to force commit
> > > them at the end of the session.
>
> > not at all.  SA doesnt do anything automatic in this regard; only if
> > you say session.flush().
>
> > however: i am under the impression that Turbogears issues an explicit
> > SessionTransaction for every controller method.  if so, this action
> > *will* issue a flush() for every controller request.  so this would be
> > because thats how TG does it, via closing their SessionTransaction.
> > Pylons doesnt do anything like this..its much less opinionated.
>
> This is what messed me up too when I first starting using SA w/ turbogears.
>  I did not know that a transaction occurred automatically with the
> controller and I wanted to use a transaction as part of the error handler
> validation and if a transaction failed do something.  I later figured it out
> with the help of a few friends, but it is kind of a gotcha for people using
> TG1.0 as they may read the SA tutorial like good children and hear about all
> of the explicit handling of transactions, which is good I agree, then they
> use TG controller and is implicit.
>
> --http://www.blog.noahgift.com


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