Mike,

Thank you for your quick reply.

If I understand correctly, after_flush() will get called after the SQL
is actually sent to the db server.  If that is the case, then it is
too late for this validation as I would want the ability to test for
validation issues that would cause DB errors (i.e. NULL in non-NULL
fields, string lengths greater than the column size).

However, I can do some testing with it.

On Apr 19, 3:31 pm, Michael Bayer <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Randy Syring wrote:
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> > * I would like default values to have been applied to the instance if
> > applicable before validation, i.e. i want to see the instance as a
> > mirror of what the flushed SQL will look like
> > * I would like to be able to have multiple models fail validation i.e.
> > I want to get details on as many errors as possible before raising an
> > exception
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> > I was initially using before_insert and before_update on the mapper
> > extension and trying to "catch" the errors on those instances in the
> > session extension.  However, before_flush() gets called before the
> > mapper extension's before_insert/update, so that didn't work.
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> > So, Ideally, my work flow would look something like:
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> > - before_insert/before_update called on each instance
> > -- instance.do_validation() called; any errors are stored on the
> > instance and the process continues
> > - I loop through the session looking for instances with validation
> > errors
> > -- if I find any, I throw a ValidationError exception
> > - SQL is actually flushed to the DB
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> > I really am in over my head a bit in SA internals though, so feel free
> > to let me know if I am missing the big picture.
>
> did you try "after_flush()" ?   the transaction hasn't been committed yet at 
> that point.  then you could whiz through the whole session and each object 
> has everything fully, including DB-generated state.
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