Hi Eric,

I'm sifting through some of the orm code for Camelot (with the intention
of maybe merging some of it into Elixir).  However, I've stopped due to
the copyright - it's GPL, not MIT.  I'm not entirely sure about how
licenses work and such, but is this kosher?  i.e. with the 2 licenses,
is it ok to copy your changes from Camelot into the elixir core?

For anyone interested, I put a copy of the elixir source onto github
(got the latest version from SVN a couple months ago):
https://github.com/jarrettchisholm/elixir

Cheers

Jarrett Chisholm
Prylynx Corporation
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On 12/09/12 04:48 AM, Erik Janssens wrote:
> Hello Gaetan,
>
> Good to hear from you. It's a pity that you don't do any more
> database work, we would all benefit from it ;)
>
> About the copyright/thanks, those will be added should I release
> the code of course.  It was my original intention to simply write
> a compatibility layer for Elixir code to Declarative, but when diving
> into it I saw the added value Elixir still provides on top of Declarative,
> and then started to copy/paste parts and unit tests, and it evolved
> to a modified copy.
>
> The original documentation would indeed only need some changes.
> I've removed things that were marked as deprecated and changed
> to setup steps a little bit (but those were not documented).
>
> Regards,
>
> Erik
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Gaėtan de Menten <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:13 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> As part of the Camelot project http://www.python-camelot.com/,
>>> and to migrate our existing applications from Elixir to Declarative,
>>> I've reworked Elixir to be a layer on top of Declarative.  Most
>>> of the existing Elixir unit tests pass with the new code.
>> Ah! You've done what I dreamed to do but never found the
>> time/motivation to do it (since I don't use Elixir or any database
>> stuff for work, Elixir now competes with many other activities for my
>> free time). My ultimate goal was in fact to clean it up enough to
>> propose it for inclusion into SQLAlchemy.
>>
>>> Elixir is still very useful in that way because it's much easier to
>>> define relationships with Elixir than with pure Declarative.  Also,
>>> it's a good basis to implement custom usage patterns. (which
>>> was the original purpose of Elixir)
>> Indeed.
>>
>>> This code is now part of the Camelot codebase, but it could be
>>> useful for non gui projects as well.
>>>
>>> So if somebody is prepared to take this code and release it
>>> as Elixir 0.8 and do the project maintenance (packages,
>>> documentation, etc), I'm willing to cooperate and split this code
>>> out of Camelot.
>> Packages is no big deal. Documentation can be but most of the current
>> Elixir documentation should apply. I can't commit any time to Elixir
>> these days for various reasons but I could have some in the future.
>> I'll come back to you if that is ever the case. I had also a few
>> features in my local copy waiting for cleanup and commit but well...
>> no time.
>>
>>> If nobody steps in, the code will just remain where it is now.
>> That's a bit sad but perfectly understandable.
>>
>>> Any thoughts or ideas ?
>> Just a small deception: I found no trace of any copyright or even
>> "thanks" to the original Elixir developers on your code/modified
>> version of Elixir.
>>
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