Increasing priority does not speed up anything, it just denies time to lower priority threads. If you use a lock to prevent the background thread from running while you have foreground activity then you won't get a busy situation and your foreground thread will run unimpeded.

Having your background thread at a low priority and sharing the database between threads will give you more BUSY states, not fewer.

You could make a third thread which services SQLite and feed it from a queue which gives absolute priority to your foreground requests. Then you cannot have a BUSY and get maximum throughput. I would make the server thread the same priority as the user ones since it runs synchronously. The priority of your background thread is unimportant, and could be the same as the others.

I had a case recently where an ASP couldn't figure out why his server ran so badly and kept "freezing", despite the fact that he had raised the priority of the processes to maximum. Of course putting the priority back down solved his problem and stopped the "freezing". A high priority process in a busy wait or polling creates an ice age for everything else.
JS

Barry Paul wrote:
Yes, but I think that will just lead to the same problem. Essentially that
is what SQLite is doing for me already.

What is happening is that the high priority user interface thread is waiting
for the low priority worker thread to complete its transaction. This
effectively is reducing the priority of the user interface which either
times out or becomes sluggish...
In the busy handler can you find out what thread has the lock? If so, I
could probably temporarily increase the priority of the locking thread and
speed up the transaction processing/unlocking...

Thanks again,

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 1:07 PM
To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Threads and locking

Have you thought of using a lock to synchronise access to the databaseso that only one thread at a time could change the database although both could read simultaneously?
JS

Barry Paul wrote:


Hi, I am having some unexpected locking issues with SQLite.

I have a desktop application that uses SQLite. The

application has a
low priority worker thread that is constantly analyzing/adding/updating/deleting records in the database. The main application thread mainly

reads from
the database but also does some updating/deleting. Both

threads have
their own SQLite connection.

My problem is that when I do updates in the main

application thread I
quite often fail with a return value of SQLITE_BUSY. I have messed around with busy_timeouts and busy_handlers without much

success. My
current busy handler (culled either from this list or the web) is:

int busyHandler(void *pArg1, int iPriorCalls) {

// sleep if handler has been called less than

threshold value

       if (iPriorCalls < 20)
       {
// adding a random value here greatly

reduces locking

               if (pArg1 < 0)
                       Sleep((rand() % 500) + 400);
               else Sleep(500);
               return 1;
       }

       // have sqlite3_exec immediately return SQLITE_BUSY
       return 0;
}

If I increase the transaction size on the low priority thread I get more update failures on the main thread.

My schema is fairly simple and my tables contain < 90,000 rows. It would seem to me that with just two threads and this busy handler I should never (or very rarely) get SQLITE_BUSY.

My theory is that the main application thread is getting locked out because it is waiting for the low priority thread to

release the lock
on the database. Meanwhile something else is happing on the

machine at
a higher priority and not letting the low priority thread

back in to
finish the transaction and release the lock.

Does this sound reasonable and is there a good way of dealing with this situation? Should I try to increase the priority of the background thread when I get a lock? Or is there some way

to make sure
that transactions in the low priority thread are executed

all at once without interruption?

Thanks for your time,

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