Wow, I know this isn't really the point of your comment, but I always have to 
jump in when I see VB programmers "attacked".  So as a Delphi / C++ / VB 
programmer, where do I fit into your analogy?  Do I end up replacing myself :)

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Eric Pankoke
Founder / Lead Developer
Point Of Light Software
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From: "Fred Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A hundred or so Visual Basic programmers are cheaper to replace and
> "maintain" than one good Delphi/C++ programmer. ;-)  That is the reason
> management likes "Visual XXXX."  Been there, learned that.  Hire the
> staff from the largest pool, not the most effective.  Besides it's damn
> hard to be a prima donna, when your replacement is ready to jump off
> that forklift and learn a cushy job.
> 
> Fred
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Elrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:36 PM
> > To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
> > Subject: Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of
> > Devic eSQL?
> >
> >
> > John Stanton wrote:
> > > This also is an anecdote from some time back.  As we were signing a
> > > fairly significant software contract with a large
> > organization their
> > > manager told us "You guys know nothing about marketing.  Your
> > > presentation was unprofessional, no glossy brochures, no
> > audio visuals
> > > and we would not have bought except that you were the only ones who
> > > convinced us you could do the job".  We just smiled and watched the
> > > ink dry while we pondered "where did we go right?".
> > >
> > > The simple truth is that if you hype a product and sell it into an
> > > area where it is inadequate your triumph is short lived and
> > the scorn
> > > and litigation enduring.  On the other hand if you deliver
> > a solution
> > > which works as well, or preferably better, than proposed you have
> > > generated raving fans who will buy again and endorse your
> > product to
> > > all and sundry.  Which is the better model?
> >
> > To quote a former programs manager for Bank of America "the first
> > solution which meets my business needs and performs the job
> > adequately".  In this case, adequately can be defined as loosely as
> > "doesn't crash too often" or as stringently as "positively no
> > errors",
> > depending on the business use.
> >
> > Keeping the discussion academic, "hype a product..." is a
> > business model
> > that apparently has been used to at least some degree by a company
> > called Microsoft.  It tends to work because the model permits
> > them such
> > an early lead that even better products have difficulty catching up.
> >
> > I do most of my programming in Delphi, a Borland product
> > which remains
> > in my opinion, even in its shadow of former glory state, a far more
> > straightforward and powerful product than Visual Studio.  Borland has
> > always been a technical company, not a market driven one and its
> > flagship product is surviving only because it remains a more well
> > rounded Windows solution than its competition.  However, it is only
> > surviving and is unlikely to actually thrive ever again.
> >
> > So my suggested answer is, the proven model is "dominate the market
> > early with an adequate product".  If your product is very
> > good and even
> > better than proposed, all the better.  But if you are "Johnny come
> > lately", you will likely lose unless your product is very,
> > very good.
> > And, whether we like it or not, a big part of market domination is to
> > convince all the decision makers (management) and decision breakers
> > (engineers with influence) that yours is the safest choice to make.
> >
> > FWIW
> >
> >
> > John Elrick
> >
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