[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Doug Currie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Please set the list so default reply is to the list.
>> http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
>>
> 
> One finds various screeds such as the one Doug references
> above.  And on the configuration screen for GNU mailman,
> it "strongly recommends" that replys be to the author and
> not to the list.
> 
> And yet nearly everyone I know loaths that behavior.  The
> overwhelming majority of users prefer mailing list replies
> to go back to the mailing list *only*.
> 
> I think we have things configured now so that replies go
> back to the list instead of the to original author.  There
> are likely other settings that will need to be adjusted as
> we move forward.  Please let me know if you see anything
> unusual.
> 
> In a semi-related rant: Setting up a new mailing list is
> *way* harder than it needs to be.  Way, Way harder.  In order
> to go from ezmlm to GNU mailman, we had to prototype the
> setup on a separate machine, then spend a day debugging
> the setup after transferring it to the production machine.
> A day.  For a mailing list.  And this is with mailing list
> software that is suppose to be *easy* to configure.  I
> tremble to thing what the difficult-to-configure software
> must be like.
> 
> To tie this back to the original question, when people who
> write mail handling and mailing list software get their
> programs to the point where I can set up a new mail system
> and a new mailing list manager on a system in 15 minutes or
> less with reasonable assurance that I have not opened major
> security holes in the system, then, perhaps, I will be in a
> better mood to listen to their polemics on Reply-To field 
> munging.
> 
> --
> D. Richard Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Some very apt comments.  Having been similarly irritated by the mindless 
complexity of setting up mailman to manage a simple list I empathize. 
The ease and simplicity of installing Sqlite is in stark comparison and 
no accident but the reward of a lot of discipline in paring away 
complexity, filtering out ornamentation and responding thoughtfully to 
user's experiences and suggestions.
  JS
There are no victims, only volunteers.
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