On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Oleg Broytman <p...@phdru.name> wrote: > Hi!, Ian! Thank you! >
You're welcome! I derive immense joy from seeing awesome projects make the leap, so I'm really happy to see people enthusiastic about this. > On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:53:34AM -0600, Ian Cordasco > <graffatcolmin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> I see there's been some discussion of late about porting the library >> to support Python 3. I'm a *very occasional* user of SQLObject and >> I've not contributed thus far, but I have some experience porting >> code-bases to support Python 3. The following is the sum of my >> experiences and is by no means absolute fact or the experiences of >> others. >> >> I'm personally of the opinion that having separate branches for Python >> 2 and Python 3 is a really bad idea. It works for some but it is way >> too much overhead and it always ends up in something getting out of >> sync. The best way forward is to have one codebase that works on >> Python 2 and Python 3. >> >> First, I've found it far easier to support Python 3 once Python 2.5 >> support has been dropped. It is possible to support Python 2.5 (pep8, >> pyflakes, mccabe, and flake8 are all projects which do this) but it is >> tricky. It would be up to the community whether it wants to support >> 2.5 or not and I really don't feel right in telling you to drop >> support for it altogether (although planning that may be a good idea). >> >> Second, a strategy that Alex Gaynor uses is to run flake8 under python >> 2 and python 3. A quick look at SQLObject's source makes me believe >> this is suboptimal at this point. The code mostly complies with pep8 >> but would still have a lot of extraneous output generated by the pep8 >> tool that flake8 uses. The reason for using flake8 is that pyflakes >> (which flake8 uses) compiles the code using the AST and when >> compilation fails, it tells you for which file(s) it failed and where. >> This will help us simply make the code *run* on Python 3. >> >> Third, setting up a continuous integration system (like Travis CI) to >> run the tests after every push and whenever someone submits a pull >> request. The CI system can do the following: >> >> - Run the tests on a specified version of Python (usually limited to >> things like 2.6, 2.7, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, pypy, etc. and not allowing for >> granularity like 2.6.8 and 2.6.9) >> - Run pyflakes (or flake8) on specified versions of Python >> - Generating docs and ensuring they build properly >> - Other goodies >> >> This helps us catch regressions in Python 3 support or Python 2 support. >> >> Fourth, using a library like six to help cover some common import or >> string related problems in supporting Python 2 and 3 in a single >> codebase. >> >> ~~ >> >> This is of course all predicated on the assumption that sqlobject's >> dependencies support Python 3 as well, but I haven't looked into all >> of them. It also is predicated on sqlobject wanting to wait (or not >> wait) for those dependencies before adding support. >> >> I've sent this email to see if I'm the only one interested in helping >> with the "port". I definitely don't have the time to do this all by >> myself and having about 4 or more people to help would be amazing. >> >> Personally, I prefer working on GitHub if possible and I know the >> repository is already there. I would be happy to help coordinate and >> review pull requests there if people can help with this. > > What's your Github login? I'll add you to the team. sigmavirus24 > >> I'd love to hear everyone's feedback. >> >> Thanks, >> Ian > > Oleg. > -- > Oleg Broytman http://phdru.name/ p...@phdru.name > Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > sqlobject-discuss mailing list > sqlobject-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sqlobject-discuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ sqlobject-discuss mailing list sqlobject-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sqlobject-discuss
