pippin wrote: > > So since this is a full-blown cloud service: how much would you be > willing to pay as a monthly subscription? > We've had this topic in the past - and I did consider it a few times as > a business model before. > The problem at hand is that I don't like dying business models, in the > sense that long term the number of potential users shrinks, not grows. > Let's all face the truth: people are moving towards streaming instead of > owning music. You and me are probably different but the number of people > doing this is not growing. It's more complicated, you have to organize > your own files and you have to get hold of the files in the first > place. > Spotify et al on the other hand have a readily indexed database with > millions and millions of songs and can offer you easy access at home as > well as mobile. > > So the question really is not as much one of development but one of "how > many are people willing to pay on a subscription basis". And how many of > those people are out there?
NOTE: I reference SubSonic below alot because it is the piece of software that I most recently began playing with when I started this thread. Feel free to substitute ANY software capable of making your personal music available to a 'web/app player'. Again, respectfully, I never said it HAD to be a cloud service, or at least start out as one. SubSonic doesn't as it relies on you/it opening a FW port. Initially it could start out as an 'open port' on our firewall - after all, SubSonic or a VPN needs one anyway. External IP existence would be through any one of the many domain to IP services out on the Internet. If it were a cloud service, to answer the question of a subscription fee directly - $5-10/mo, but for the higher level there would probably need to be some other value added benefit for most people. As far as gauging interest & funding potential, I suggested setting up a 'gofundme' type account. Until it hits a certain level, no work need be done. Another funding source is in-app ads which is what SubSonic does, unless you're a 'premium' member. I'm sure there are others, such as an in-app purchase to enable this feature But maybe it's not worth the effort - fine. So now I'll ask the question that I can't answer and into territory that I only have a cursory knowledge of at best- Personally, my thought was more along the lines of an app that runs within our home network that acts as an LMS proxy, but provides the needed security that LMS lacks. It would provide a feed over https to a stripped down 'player only' app on the phone - since there is no reason to control all of LMS. At least initially, 'user' security could be through some sort of certificate that could be imported into the app, distributed via email. Could the LMS proxy server app run in some kind of 'sandbox' to prevent other potential of hackery? Is there any existing open source software, that's fairly well tested, that could be used to piece something like this together 75% of the way? Finally on the subject, since the major players in this space believe this issue to be a dead/silly idea/not worth the effort, I'll drop it, and simply try to find a product like SubSonic, et. al., but if possible with an internet proxy. 2 additional things- Pippin, is there any chance you'd consider adding an SSH option to your app in particular, similar to how the old SoftSqueeze emulator did? In my use case, a VPN will not work due to traffic restrictions, as well as internet radio services, etc. - but SSH is allowed, or can be granted. Again, this could be provided in a special 'player only' product that costs extra that I would willingly pay. Also, to all - I know there is already a plugin for LMS to talk to SubSonic and feed it - I assume it's acting like a SubSonic player. Does anyone know if there something to do this in the opposite direction? i.e. something like a SubSonic plugin that can 'pull' from LMS (?), or is there some other method that could achieve this I've missed? The idea would be to isolate the 2 products for security, firewalled to only allow specific traffic between the to 'systems' *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ markm9999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109877
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