I just felt it fair to advise those who have tried to help me and for those who may have a similar experience in the future that the sb is now functioning again, in fact so are all my wireless toys, the problem seems to be a conflict with browser software which was still on the laptop before wanadoo became orange and the new orange software for the wireless would just not install properly, so if you have a livebox and a wireless problem, e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or skype technocretin for details
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