cottinghamm;601908 Wrote: 
> 
> > > > 
> > [Update from Andy]
> > If you are wondering why Spotify is not supported on our older ip3k
> > players, here's why:
> > 
> > Spotify's audio API (libspotify) is closed-source, even for partners.
> > This works fine on Radio and Touch because they've provided us with
> > special ARM builds, but for ip3k it would have to be ported by us. Even
> > if we were to get the source code (very unlikely) it would never fit in
> > or run fast enough on ip3k anyway. Decrypting a large amount of AES
> > data, plus Vorbis decoding? Forget about it.
> > > > 
> 
> Fair point, if that is what Spotify provide you can only do what you
> can - it really needs us Spotify premium account holders to raise
> this with them, we pay £10 a month, we should demand a solution from
> them.  I want this supported natively on my Boom (I am using Triode &
> it is a very good solution) because Squeezebox and Spotify is the
> ultimate music streaming solution outside the US.
> 
> We all need to pressure Spotify to help Logitech with this.  Good
> progress though, well done.

I too understand the technical limitations for the CURRENT set-up,
nothing strange with that really.
However...what bothers me a bit as a Logitech customer in general, and
specifically in this case a duet owner, is the lack of interest and
motivation for a solution for anything but the Radio and Touch I can
sense between the lines from Logitechs side. 
I find the attitude being kinda "*yawn*-nothing-we-can(i.e. want
to)-do-about-it,-you-must-talk-to-spotify-*yawn"-ish.

Maybe this is just because I honestly feel a bit ripped off (and if
someone here felt as a 2nd class citizen compared to Sonos owners, I
now feel like a 3rd class citizen compared to Radio and Touch owners).
So if this is not the case at all I applogize for maybe being a bit
harsh (e.g. I know MickeyG wrote that Logitech WILL continue to discuss
alternative methods to protect the content (to be able to do the
transcoding at MySquuezebox.com-level I assume?) and, as I understand
it, the only thing really preventing an alterative solution is how the
contract/agreement/license with Spotify is written.)

I would really like to see Logitech being open towards their customers
about the progress of this discussion, the plans, vision, ambitions,
ideas etc. Maybe you could post the status somewhere, where we could
also go in and vote for a solution so you have our voices to back you
up in the negotiations. 
I strongly believe Logitech has MUCH more power to put in to a possible
solution/agreement then each one of us alone. At least tell us what we
should say to Spotify that would benefit the probability of a solution
the most, and how to adress it in the best way(!).

As Cottingham wrote we all pay £10 monthly to spotify for their
services and should demand a solution, but all logitech devices
affected by this also sum up to quite a few bucks so I think the demand
for a solution falls equally on Logitech, and that they should rather
represent us in the matter (as, in the end, the possible solution for
getting this to work also on older squeezebox devices most likely is to
be found in the agreement written between Logitech and Spotify)...


BR Bloodfaya

PS. 
Regarding the vote for an "official SqueezeServer plugin" I don't
really see the difference to the existing, well working, Triode 3rd
party plug-in? (I'm sure Triodes support in his thread is MUCH faster
than official Logitech support, I doubt it will be better functioning.)

Can anyone clarify the benefits to me?

However, I do vote YES for an official local server plugin, for you who
see a benefit and have the need for it so....here's another vote.  
DS.


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