Makes sense. In the current code, if the test for ttl == 0 is removed, it should set the '0' case to the negative TTL rather than the positive one, which would be better in all cases, I think.


On 2007/10/11, at 3:06 AM, Duane Wessels wrote:




On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Mark Nottingham wrote:

From ipcache.c;

   if (ttl == 0 || ttl > Config.positiveDnsTtl)
        ttl = Config.positiveDnsTtl;
   if (ttl < Config.negativeDnsTtl)
        ttl = Config.negativeDnsTtl;
   i->expires = squid_curtime + ttl;

As I read this, if the TTL from an upstream resolver happens to be '0', it changes it to whatever positive_dns_ttl is -- even though that also acts as a ceiling for DNS TTLs.

I think this is partly left over from the old days when Squid always
used the external dnsserver programs.  'dnsserver' could only report
TTLs if the O/S had the libresolv _dns_ttl hack.  So "ttl == 0"
meant that dnsserver didn't have any TTL value, so it should be set
to positive_dns_ttl.

The problem is that this plays havoc with DNS-based load balancers, which will be '0' more often than other DNS entries by nature. Any chance of either;

The only thing I'm worried about is that with true 0 TTL squid will
have to make multiple lookups for a single HTTP request.  For
example, if someone had a long list of 'dst' ACLs then each one
could result in a new DNS lookup.

AFAIK, the ipcache is the only place where DNS lookups are cached
and Squid may refer to the ipcache multiple times for a given HTTP
transaction.

DW

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