Thanks Yuri.  That helps.  As for the "sslproxy_flags
DONT_VERIFY_PEER", yes I understand the risks.  In my specific case,
where my "users" are actually a bunch of automated web clients doing
some web crawling it's the right thing to do.
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Yuri <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> AFAIK,
>
> SSL bump subsystem uses OpenSSL memory routines. So, first of all, most
> probably leaks (if any) can be OpenSSL-related, but not squid itself.
>
> Now let's see your config snippets.
>
> 13.03.2018 23:00, Aaron Turner пишет:
>
> "Usually misconfiguration leads to memory overhead."
>
> This may be true, but if you look in the list archives a few months
> ago I basically chased my tail in circles and nobody could tell me
> what I was doing wrong and so many of the docs are so old that they're
> worse then useless, they seem to suggest the wrong thing.
>
> It was literally leaking GB's worth of RAM.  I even disabled all
> caching and process sizes were growing into the GB's.  Turn off
> ssl-bump and the leak went away.
>
> This is what I was using:
>
> http_port 10.0.0.1:3128 ssl-bump generate-host-certificates=on
> dynamic_cert_mem_cache_size=400MB cert=/etc/squid/ssl_cert/myCA.pem
> sslflags=NO_DEFAULT_CA
> http_port localhost:3128
> ssl_bump bump all
>
> bump all is useless without peek/splice.
>
> Let's see on my config snippets:
>
> https_port 3127 intercept ssl-bump generate-host-certificates=on
> dynamic_cert_mem_cache_size=10MB cert=/usr/local/squid/etc/rootCA2.crt
> key=/usr/local/squid/etc/rootCA2.key
> tls-cafile=/usr/local/squid/etc/rootCA12.crt
> options=SINGLE_DH_USE:SINGLE_ECDH_USE
> tls-dh=secp384r1:/usr/local/squid/etc/dhparam.pem
> cipher=HIGH:MEDIUM:RC4:3DES:!aNULL:!eNULL:!LOW:!MD5:!EXP:!PSK:!SRP:!DSS
> tls-no-npn sslflags=NO_DEFAULT_CA:VERIFY_CRL_ALL
> http_port 3128 ssl-bump generate-host-certificates=on
> dynamic_cert_mem_cache_size=10MB cert=/usr/local/squid/etc/rootCA2.crt
> key=/usr/local/squid/etc/rootCA2.key
> tls-cafile=/usr/local/squid/etc/rootCA12.crt
> options=SINGLE_DH_USE:SINGLE_ECDH_USE
> tls-dh=secp384r1:/usr/local/squid/etc/dhparam.pem
> cipher=HIGH:MEDIUM:RC4:3DES:!aNULL:!eNULL:!LOW:!MD5:!EXP:!PSK:!SRP:!DSS
> tls-no-npn sslflags=NO_DEFAULT_CA:VERIFY_CRL_ALL
> tls_outgoing_options cafile=/usr/local/squid/etc/ca-bundle.crt
> cipher=HIGH:MEDIUM:RC4:3DES:!aNULL:!eNULL:!LOW:!MD5:!EXP:!PSK:!SRP:!DSS
> # Cert database on ramdisk
> sslcrtd_program /usr/local/squid/libexec/security_file_certgen -s
> /ramdisk1/ssl_db -M 1GB
> sslcrtd_children 32 startup=10 idle=5
>
> # SSL bump rules
> acl DiscoverSNIHost at_step SslBump1
> acl NoSSLIntercept ssl::server_name_regex
> "/usr/local/squid/etc/acl.url.nobump"
> ssl_bump peek DiscoverSNIHost
> ssl_bump splice NoSSLIntercept
> ssl_bump bump all
>
>
> sslcrtd_program /usr/lib64/squid/ssl_crtd -s /var/lib/squid/ssl_db -M 4MB
> sslcrtd_children 32 startup=2 idle=2
>
> This is defaults. Pay attention, -M is limits use ssl_db directory to 4 Mb
> in size. It's too few for production servers. My ramdisk for ssl db is 1+ Gb
> in size:
>
> /dev/ramdisk/ramdisk1           961M   14M  890M   2% /ramdisk1/ssl_db
>
> sslproxy_session_cache_size 100 MB
>
> This is disbalanced size instead of previous setting. Why so big?
>
> #  TAG: sslproxy_session_cache_size
> #        Sets the cache size to use for ssl session
> #Default:
> # sslproxy_session_cache_size 2 MB
>
> sslproxy_cert_error allow all
> sslproxy_flags DONT_VERIFY_PEER
>
> NEVER use this options. It is unsafe.
>
> SSL Bump is dangerous enough itself. Don't do it more unsafe additionally by
> yourself.
>
> This was on a machine (EC2 VM) with 14GB of RAM.
>
> Pay attention on several places:
>
> 1. OS memory allocator.
> 2. OpenSSL version.
> 3. OS configuration (IPC, shared memory, swap - all memory related).
> 4. Squid's memory/pools configuration.
>
> Don't forget about: Often memory fragmentation seems like leaks. But no
> leaks occurs indeed.
>
> Also, don't forget - squid's memory consumption is not only cache_mem, but
> also caching on-disk metadata (swap.state), pools settings, working memory
> areas, processes memory. And - also - such things like content adaptation
> (did you know wide uses ecap gzip adapter is leaky itself?).
>
> But this is just for example.
>
> In any case, dig to the OpenSSL/OS side. Squid's memory in most cases is ok.
>
> I know, this appears SSL Bump is leaky. But this is not correct.
>
> --
> Aaron Turner
> https://synfin.net/         Twitter: @synfinatic
> My father once told me that respect for the truth comes close to being
> the basis for all morality.  "Something cannot emerge from nothing,"
> he said.  This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable
> "the truth" can be.  -- Frank Herbert, Dune
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Yuri <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've used it on all versions starting from 3.4.
>
> Now I'm using Squid 5.0.0.
>
> I'm afraid, my config is completely useless, because of it contains tons
> of optimizations/tweaks/tricks and designed for customized Squid 5.0.0,
> with different memory allocator for custom infrastructure.
>
> You can't just take my config, implement it and hope it will give same
> results for you.
>
> At least, it uses non-system CA bundle, platform-specific configuration
> parameters combinations, etc.
>
> I can say, than SSL Bump is not directly related to memory leaks. Squid
> itself almost not contains memory leaks now. Usually misconfiguration
> leads to memory overhead.
>
> As a recommendation, I can give some advices.
>
> 1. Use server with enough RAM. 4 Gb usually enough just for default
> squid configuration. Usually whole system RAM usage should never be
> bigger than 1/2 of overall physical RAM. (I.e. at least 1/3 of RAM
> should always be free during normal running. This prevents OS allocator
> pressure to your proxy and, also, increasing performance of proxy). In
> case of medium proxy server 16 Gb of RAM seems big enough, but never try
> to fill it up completely.
>
> 2. Don't set giant cache_mem. Remember how you platform allocates whole
> RAM - kernel, anon pages, fs caches, etc. - and use reasonable squid's
> memory-related settings.
>
> 3. Use sslflags=NO_DEFAULT_CA with your SSL Bump ports.
>
> 4. Never remember - SSL Bump increases your cache memory pressure due to
> increasing caching. So, you still require to have enough memory in your
> system.
>
>
> 13.03.2018 22:25, Aaron Turner пишет:
>
> What version are you using Yuri?  Can you share your config?
> Everytime I use ssl bump, I have massive memory leaks.  It's been
> effectively unusable for me.
> --
> Aaron Turner
> https://synfin.net/         Twitter: @synfinatic
> My father once told me that respect for the truth comes close to being
> the basis for all morality.  "Something cannot emerge from nothing,"
> he said.  This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable
> "the truth" can be.  -- Frank Herbert, Dune
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Yuri <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Moreover,
>
> SSL Bump combines with interception/explicit proxy in one setup.
>
> And works perfectly.
>
>
> 13.03.2018 21:14, Marcus Kool пишет:
>
> "SSL bump" is the name of a complex Squid feature.
> With ssl_bump ACLs one can decide which domains can be 'spliced' (go
> through the proxy untouched) or can be 'bumped' (decrypted).
>
> Interception is not a requirement for SSL bump.
>
> Marcus
>
> On 13/03/18 11:44, Danilo V wrote:
>
> I mean SSL bump in explicit mode.
> So intercept is a essencial requirement for running SSL bump?
>
> Em ter, 13 de mar de 2018 às 11:10, Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> <uh...@fantomas.sk <mailto:uh...@fantomas.sk>> escreveu:
>
>     On 13.03.18 13:44, Danilo V wrote:
>      >Is it possible/feasible to configure squid in explicit mode
> with ssl
>      >intercept?
>
>     explicit is not intercept, intercept is not explicit.
>
>     explicit is where browser is configured (manually or
> automatically via WPAD)
>     to use the proxy.
>
>     intercept is where network device forcifully redirects http/https
> connections
>     to the proxy.
>
>     maybe you mean SSL bump in explicit mode?
>
>      >Due to architecture of my network it is not possible to implement
>      >transparent proxy.
>
>     excuse me?
>     by "transparent" people mean what we usually call "intercept".
>
>      >What would be the behavior of applications that dont support
> proxy - i.e.
>      >dont forward requests to proxy?
>
>     they mest be intercepted.
>
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