On Wednesday 06 April 2005 16:23, Marc Powell wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> [mailto:squirrelmail-
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [TRF]LisXit Team
> > RaisingFire/Xtreme Team Coders
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:09 AM
> > To: squirrelmail-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [SM-USERS] (no subject)
>
> [lots of talk about being blacklisted for sending SMTP directly from
> dynamic IP's.]
>
> > > > this is real lame
> > > > really, why did sorbs came up with such idea
> > >
> > > It's actually quite a good idea.  It stops lots of people who would
> > > otherwise use dynamically acquired IP addresses (harder to trace,
>
> etc)
>
> > > from spamming the world.  Real world mail servers need to be in a
> >
> > reliable
> >
> > > place in order to function properly, at least w/out a LOT of
>
> hacking, so
>
> > > it turns out to be a pretty good assumption that incoming
>
> connections
>
> > from
> >
> > > servers on dynamic IPs are spambots doing their thing.
> >
> > Well not for @home,
> > I know that they saves up to 20 last used ip's with the start and end
> > date...
> > also, if you get a new ip the older ip will still reslove to the
>
> current
>
> > hostname, and this is for about 2 weeks till 1 month
> > so @home should not block their own customers
> >
> > but here another example, i replyed your message and i got it...
>
> because
>
> > squirrelmail is using the database of sorbs,
> > well not that i gonna say that it sucks and you don't have to use it,
> > because it's one of the possibilities to eliminate spam
> > but people like me, using a mailserver for my own, and some for my
>
> friends
>
> > (trusted ofcourse, not everybody gets a mail address at my domain)
> >
> > I'm going to contact @home for delisting me, if not then i will go to
> > another
> > provider.
>
> The blocks/blacklists on dynamic IP's are entirely appropriate in this
> day and age. There is an industry accepted and promoted solution to your
> problem and that is to use your ISP's mail server as an outgoing mail
> relay. You can either use it via SMTP directly from your applications
> (i.e. SM) or as a smarthost for the mail server you are running. Every
> ISP I know of worth a grain of salt allows their customers to use the
> ISP's mail servers to send mail. That's why they are there. If you do
> that I'll be most if not all of your problems go away. If you are an
> @home customer, they are almost certainly allowing you to relay SMTP
> through them. If you're blocked because you're on a blacklist that they
> subscribe to then it's your fault for not doing your research before
> setting up your mail server.
>
> --
> Marc
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yeah i did, but they don't allow open relay, they only allow closed, which i 
am running
so i thought it would be fine, 
even i didn't hear about such lists

now i do


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