On Thu, March 30, 2006 19:39, Jens Knoell wrote:
> On Thu, March 30, 2006 08:31, Marc Groot Koerkamp wrote:
>
>> 1) What is the advantage of AJAX above normal templates;
>>
>
> I'd see these advantages:
> - Drag&Drop functionality for messages

This is indeed something that could be done with AJAX.

> - Right-Click menus for folder management and email management

That's JS/templates work, No need for AJAX.

> - Look&Feel closer to that of a normal app (i.e. drop down menus and so
> on)
>

JS/templates work.

> All of these _should_ be possible without AJAX I guess, although it'd
> probably be easier to do them with AJAX.
>
>> 2) Why do you thing 1) is an advantage;
>>
>
> Drag&Drop is obvious I believe: It's a standard way of dealing with
> files, folders, messages and whatnot. Plus it's a lot easier at least for
> me :) Right-Click functionality: Same thing. It's a pain in the butt to go
> to the folder management and mess around there, especially since the
> management screen is not terribly intuitive. Look&Feel: Well, that's a
> personal thing. I'm getting tired of users asking "How do I do..."
> questions. Tired to the point of telling them to bugger off.
>

Ah well, then you get the accidentily drag and dropped messages problems ...
As long as there are users there will be silly questions/stupid actions.
The other points, about folder management and not being intuitive, i agree
but that something we need to work on in templates too and we need to do
some internal rewrites to add more per folder settings.

Changing the UI without making use of templates is almost impossible
because whatever you change, there always will be a group of people who do
not like the change and that's why UI changes didn't happen much the last
couple of years. Templates will change that.

But, most of what you want can be achieved by normal html/css/js/dom
ussage without the need for ajax. The drag and drop part is a nice feature
to add in the feature once we finished templates.

>> 3) What is the form of the XML structure SquirrelMail should provide
>>
>
> No idea. I claim not to know anything about programming, and I am not
> even lying when I say that I don't know the first thing about XML.
>

Forget 3), we will think about that when there is a need for using ajax
i.e. for drag en drop. I added 3) to the list because most people who ask
for "when does SM support AJAX" do not have a clue what it involves except
from that it looks pretty ... (which i think has nothing to do with ajax)
They need to think first before they ask ... ;)

When there is a need for AJAX, i.e. for drag and drop, then we will come
up with a good sollution for 3) ;)

>> Things I personally think AJAX could be usefull is the following:
>> * update seen/total message count mailbox tree
>> * retrieval of mailbox headers for mailbox display
>> * retrieval of message headers and displayable message body for message
>> display (read_body)
>>
>> In other words, only the dynamic parts.
>>
>
> Pretty much agreed.
>
>


Regards,

Marc.



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