On 31 Oct 2013, at 15:17, Peter Dunkley <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 31 October 2013 14:07, Olle E. Johansson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hitting me with my own argument and code, that's cheating Peter :-)
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> It's fun to play dirty once in a while :-)
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> Well, DMQ is one very strange and advanced module, I admit that. Like I said 
> earlier I think my discussion now is more generic to how we communicate and 
> build the product. I'm trying to change the attitude in a large group of 
> stubborn engineers, including most of me, myself and I...
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> I certainly favour having security (and easy to use security) as a goal.  But 
> one of the things I like about Kamailio is the flexibility.  For example, 
> secure signalling is harder to trace (that's kind of the point), so when 
> building a network I will tend do so with security disabled (or at least not 
> enforced) so that I can make sure I am happy with the routing, and then 
> tighten things up before I let other people on it.
Again -

I have never ever said that we should disable the flexibility. Just that we 
need to start from another side, have a different perspective when we decide 
default configurations, when we write documentation, when we talk about the 
product. We want the product to grow and be used by more and more people. That 
will mean different types of people and even amongst the current crowd a little 
security would not hurt.

/O
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