Thank you.  Yes I have been doing packet capturing and it does appear that 
sometimes there is a missing ACK back from Kamailio; it is just so, so 
confusing as to why sometimes (often, depending the provider) it works.  Your 
thoughts do help though!

-Steve

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From: sr-users [mailto:sr-users-boun...@lists.kamailio.org] On Behalf Of 
Michael Young
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 8:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Very inconsistent calls

Do that google search. You aren't the only person who experiences that.

For instance, it can be caused by having multiple UAs behind a NAT 
router\firewall with a poor connection tracking implementation. The firewall 
can get confused and at times route an ACK to the wrong UA (As Brandon Armstead 
said, "this issue occurs when ACK is not routed to proper contact.")  Without 
details on your topology, no one here would be able to help you troubleshoot 
further or make other suggestions.

There is no substitute for packet capturing and a clear understanding of the 
call flow. 

Michael

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Wilkins, Steve
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But very often a call will stay up indefinitely!  This is what is strange.

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From: sr-users [mailto:sr-users-boun...@lists.kamailio.org] On Behalf Of 
Michael Young
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 9:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Very inconsistent calls

And just to add to Alex's comment -- in my experience this is almost always a 
firewall issue. Whenever I see a call drop in 32 seconds, it is usually because 
a firewall did not allow the ACK through. 

Google "Asterisk drops calls after 32 seconds" and you get 1,180,000 results... 
 and the problem is not Asterisk itself. 

Michael

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Balashov
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 7:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Very inconsistent calls



> I have found that calls are very inconsistent.  I use Kamailio 5, 
> Asterisk 14.  When certain Providers like (Sorenson, ZVRS) make calls 
> into a WebRTC client (tryit-jssip), sometime the calls stay up until I 
> close them (10-15 minutes), others times those calls drop in 30 
> seconds.  This is extremely confusing...does anyone else experience 
> this type of behavior?

It is hard to speculate without a capture, and indeed there are lots of moving 
parts with WebRTC. However, the typical reason why an established call would 
drop after ~30 sec (32, to be precise) is that the end-to-end ACK from the 
caller, which completes the required "three-way handshake"
for call establishment, does not reach the callee. This is because it's not 
constructed correctly by the calling UA, not routed correctly by intermediate 
entities, or isn't sent at all by the calling UA.

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