Ok, is evident I am completely unable in this things, I totally see I am. Sorry to have screwed up, I was well meaning (as you hinted), and I will definitely change my attitude in future.
Sorry again, I just wanted (and I see I was superficial and wrong) to extend invitation to party, with no other interest than being seen as a nice guy, btw I am not organizing it and I believe the organizers are actively reaching to Asterisk community, maybe the organizers are not the most efficients party organizers. I am not yet subscribed to asterisk mailing list, that is why I have not put it in copy (also, now I understand is bad to send messages to multiple mailing lists). Anyway, I am sad, I do it wrongly (totally clear now to me), I apologize, it will not happen again in future. That is sure. -giovanni On Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 10:26 Daniel-Constantin Mierla <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > there are couple of aspects to clarify with your kind of approach here. > > * First, because you did it couple of times, email good manners say not to > send a message to many recipients that have no close relation between them. > You addressed many of your past emails to couple of mailing lists: > > - if you think the members overlap, then send to only one, everyone will > get it from there > - if you don't think the above and the communities are different, send > independent messages to each of your recipients or put them on bcc. After > all, copy&paste is cheap, takes few more seconds, but is done properly. We > encourage Reply-All in your community, when someone sends an email with > recipient in no relation with themselves and our project, even worse with > subscribe-only mailing lists, it doesn't play nice > > * Users mailing list here is for discussions about using Kamailio. If you > do a presentation or something else that doesn't involve directly Kamailio, > even if you think some aspects there can be interesting, this is not the > forum for it. Use business list or contact first the Kamailio project admin > or management groups to figure out where is the most appropriate place to > post your message. It was suggested by others for your past posts, I wanted > to highlight it again. > * Personal opinion here, but your event seems organized somehow around the > facilities/efforts put together by Astricon/Asterisk team to get people in > Orlando. It is announced as a public event, on several open source > projects, like Kamailio or FreeSwitch, but Asterisk is left out (or at > least I couldn't see any announcement on Asterisk Users/Business lists). If > you invited all of us here, thousands people in Kamailio Users list, maybe > this could have been done as something more official with the organizers of > the main event. It's usual that various groups organize themselves in sort > of private meetings/gatherings/parties at world wide events, discussing > among them, but doing it in this mode looks more like a cheap way of > advertising. > > The sponsors of your event promote themselves as "known sponsors and > contributors to the OpenSouce Telecom Community". If Asterisk doesn't > qualify for open source telecom, then likely no one else qualifies. Or > maybe the meaning of "OpenSouce Telecom Community" is like: hey, I use an > open source telephony project, so I am also part of the "OpenSouce Telecom > Community", so I am going to "sponsor" myself some drinks, thus now I am > now "sponsor and contributor to the OpenSouce Telecom Community". > > Also, the sponsors have very little or nothing to do with Kamailio > project. Moreover, various people involved there, among the sponsors and > the others, had aggressive campaigns against Kamailio project and its > developers in the past. After saying left and right that Kamailio has > incapable developers and it is going to die as a project, but 10 years late > they find our project and community interesting ... huh. > > * I see a photo that includes me on the web page of your event. It would > have been polite to at least ask if I am fine with, not to say that it is > illegal to do it with the privacy laws in European Union. Maybe I agreed > that pictures that capture me at some past events (in this case Astricon > 2017) can be used by the organizers of the event, but for sure I didn't > agree to be used by others for promoting of events not related to me, > Kamailio or the original event. And if you think of asking now: I am not. > > It happens also that I attended all Kamailio World editions, so the > statement in your event web page that "You've seen us at ... Kamailio > World" is unclear. Who is "us"? I see in the page faces that were never at > KW as well as sponsors that had nothing to do with the event or with > Kamailio project. > > To conclude: maybe the event is well intended, I expect it is, but beside > giving an email address and posting a day+time, no other info about the > persons that are the main organizers, the location, the capacity and > acceptance rules, ... it is just trying to highlight some sponsors and > various persons, so instead of (hoping) its well intended scope, it looks > like advertising purposes by a bunch of opportunistic companies and people. > > Cheers, > Daniel > > On 04.10.18 16:54, Giovanni Maruzzelli wrote: > > Hello friends and collegues, > > A nice get together has been organized for evening Wednesday 10th at 7pm > > The idea is to have drinks and chitchat about opensource telephony and > webrtc, and all opensource project founders, members, and practitioners are > invited. > > Please join me, as distinguished participants too! > > Check it out at http://party.officering.com > > (no animals has been harmed in this mail) > > -giovanni > > -- > > Sincerely, > > Giovanni Maruzzelli > OpenTelecom.IT > cell: +39 347 266 56 18 > > > _______________________________________________ > Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing > [email protected]https://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users > > > -- > Daniel-Constantin Mierla -- www.asipto.comwww.twitter.com/miconda -- > www.linkedin.com/in/miconda > Kamailio World Conference -- www.kamailioworld.com > Kamailio Advanced Training, Nov 12-14, 2018, in Berlin -- www.asipto.com > >
_______________________________________________ Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List [email protected] https://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
