Hi!

But there would be a connection after app will wake up.

Wake up -> REGISTER -> Connection.

And after this it's about a time to send to app any info on canceled or already answered calls.

Regards,
Igor

On 10.03.2021 18:18, Jurijs Ivolga wrote:
Hi,

If you look into this:

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/pushkit/responding_to_voip_notifications_from_pushkit <https://developer.apple.com/documentation/pushkit/responding_to_voip_notifications_from_pushkit>

Full quote:

    After sending the initial push notification, don’t send additional
    push notifications to cancel the call or communicate new details
    to your app. Instead, communicate with the app directly over the
    network connection you established between it and your server.
    Using an existing network connection is generally faster than
    sending a push notification, and if network conditions are poor,
    APNs may be unable to deliver push notifications to the device
    anyway.


So based on my interpretation of what is written above, it seems they do not prohibit, but rather recommend it because of " Using an existing network connection is generally faster ". As far as we are discussing a case where there are no existing connections, I personally think this part of documentation is not relevant to that particular case.

Jurijs


On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:36 PM Igor Olhovskiy <igorolhovs...@gmail.com <mailto:igorolhovs...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi,

    But Apple prohibits to use 2nd push for call cancel. That's not my
    decision.

    
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/pushkit/responding_to_voip_notifications_from_pushkit
    
<https://developer.apple.com/documentation/pushkit/responding_to_voip_notifications_from_pushkit>

    After sending the initial push notification, don’t send
    additional push notifications to cancel the call or communicate
    new details to your app. Instead, communicate with the app
    directly over the network connection you established between it
    and your server.

    Regards,
    Igor

    On 10.03.2021 15:18, Jurijs Ivolga wrote:
    Hi,

    My point is that you're referring to documentation where it is
    assumed that there is always connection between iOS app and
    Kamailio, but this might not be the case, like in the scenario
    that I described.

    I think somebody who put this documentation is not really aware
    of all use cases and for this case it is better to use push for
    cancelling a call, IMHO.

    Jurijs


    On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:15 PM Igor Olhovskiy
    <igorolhovs...@gmail.com <mailto:igorolhovs...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Hi!

        That is exactly my question. Now I have workaround for this
        
(https://samael28.blogspot.com/2021/03/kamailio-and-delayed-cancel-on-ios.html
        
<https://samael28.blogspot.com/2021/03/kamailio-and-delayed-cancel-on-ios.html>)
        but maybe there is more efficient way, like "storing" dead
        transactions.

        Regards,
        Igor

        On 10.03.2021 15:07, Jurijs Ivolga wrote:
        Hi,

        So if there is no connection between iOS app and Kamailio,
        what should we do? Lets imagine scenario: call arrives, app
        receives push notifications and then call is cancelled, even
        before connection is established.

        Jurijs


        On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:04 PM Igor Olhovskiy
        <igorolhovs...@gmail.com <mailto:igorolhovs...@gmail.com>>
        wrote:

            Hello,

            As I got, this is should be supported by app itself, not
            iOS.

            And Apple docs says explicitly:

            After sending the initial push notification, don’t send
            additional push notifications to cancel the call or
            communicate new details to your app. Instead,
            communicate with the app directly over the network
            connection you established between it and your server.

            Regards,
            Igor

            On 10.03.2021 13:52, Ilie Soltanici wrote:
            Hello,

            On Cancel we are sending just another Push Notification
            that indicates the call is cancelled, and the calling
            screen dissapear.

            Regards,

            On Wed 10 Mar 2021 at 12:28, Igor Olhovskiy
            <igorolhovs...@gmail.com
            <mailto:igorolhovs...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                Hello!

                Is there any way to "store" already finished
                transactions in tsilo? Idea
                is to deliver, for example, canceled calls to the
                phone, when call
                already was answered on other device, but push
                notification arrive
                later? Major problem here, that there how it's
                working on iOS.

                On iOS phone first show you calling screen, than -
                app is waking and
                after app will register and receive invite with
                tsilo, it updates
                calling screen with CallerID and other info. But if
                call was canceled
                before, calling screen is shown, but app not
                receiving INVITE, so, call
                screen is just there for some timeout (for
                Linphone, for ex, it's 20 sec).

                Right now I've manage to do it via external SIPP
                call, that emulates
                "fake missed call", but maybe there is other way to
                "store" already dead
                transactions for some time?

                PS: Unfortunately, can't solve this on mobile app
                level.

-- Regards,
                Igor


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