it is. im dealing with this issue since a few weeks, i can push and add more 
cpu’s and more children and play with queues, timeouts, etc etc. but i know, im 
pretty sure that there’s a limit i can't surpass.

at this point im struggling on how to modify the http part (the api server) it 
would be great (and easy for me) if the execution pipelines can at least have 
some part where in can execute in parallel, but … a pipeline, why to execute 
following steps if not needed vs ‘execute and discard’ (and worst, some 
consumed webservices in the pipeline are transactional charged).

im happy, more that that, a docker swarm with 4 nodes with 10cpu/children each 
are handling ~1300 call attempls (invite,100,302,ack) per second, thats more 
than ok (and cpu/mem are low, really low, problem is the wait, no the power), 
but we need more (ill move to more cores/childrens and appeal to brute force by 
now to gain some time)

still seeing there’s no point to start using TM for a 100% stateless flow 


> On 24 Aug 2024, at 9:02 PM, Alex Balashov via sr-users 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Not overtly related to your most immediate question, but:
> 
> 1) "we're hitting a limit where all children become busy waiting for the API 
> to answer."
> 
> 2) "So i decided to move to http_async_client"
> 
> I'm not sure this is really going to solve your problem. You've hit 
> fundamental, thermodynamic kind of limits here. Using async here just 
> squeezes the balloon in one place and causes it to inflate in another. 
> 
> It would be different if some of your workload were HTTP-dependent and other 
> parts of the workload were not. Doing the HTTP queries would free up the core 
> SIP workers to process other kinds of requests. That doesn't sound like it's 
> the case, so all you're really liberating is reply processing, which, if this 
> is a redirect server, is nonexistent anyway.
> 
> This matter might occasion some deeper reflection.
> 
> -- Alex
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2024, at 6:48 PM, alexis via sr-users 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all, context first, we have an REST API that performs queries to 
>> external devices in the network (diameter to DRA's, REST to different 
>> servers) and based on n conditions returns the content for a Contact header 
>> to be used in a SIP 302.
>> 
>> Now we're consuming this API with http_client (synchronously) and as there's 
>> no way to speed up the API (pipeline executions, delays on external api's 
>> etc etc) we're hitting a limit where all children become busy waiting for 
>> the API to answer.
>> 
>> So i decided to move to http_async_client and started working on it on the 
>> lab with this first and base concept to test.
>> 
>> request_route {
>> 
>> 
>> #for testing purposes only
>> if(is_method("ACK")){
>> exit;
>> }
>>    $http_req(all) = $null;
>>    $http_req(suspend) = 1;
>>    $http_req(timeout) = 500;
>>    $http_req(method) = "POST";
>>    $http_req(hdr) = "Content-Type: application/json";
>>    jansson_set("string", "event", "sip-routing", "$var(cre_query)");
>>    xlog("L_INFO","API ASYNC ROUTING REQUEST: $var(cre_query)\n");
>>    $http_req(body) = $var(cre_query);
>>    t_newtran();
>>    http_async_query("http://192.168.86.128:8000/";, "CRE_RESPONSE");
>> }
>> 
>> http://192.168.86.128:8000/ receives the POST, randomly creates a delay 
>> between 0.5 and 1 second and responds (simulating the real api with an 
>> excess delay to probe the concept)
>> 
>> Then
>> 
>> route[CRE_RESPONSE] {
>>    if ($http_ok && $http_rs == 200) {
>>        xlog("L_INFO","CRE RESPONSE: $http_rb\n");
>> # for testing purpose, Contact content will be replaced from the received 
>> api response
>> append_to_reply("Contact: <sip:[email protected]>\r\n");
>>    send_reply(302,"Moved Temporarily");
>> exit;
>>    }
>>    send_reply(500, "Internal error");
>>    exit;
>> }
>> 
>> INVITE is received and processed, API is called, after API response, 302 is 
>> replied and then an ACK (ignored by now).
>> 
>> Situation is that the 302 retransmitted
>> 
>>   37 1519.846253067 192.168.86.34 → 192.168.86.128 SIP/SDP 585 Request: 
>> INVITE sip:[email protected]:5060 |
>>   38 1519.848100380 192.168.86.128 → 192.168.86.34 SIP 318 Status: 100 
>> Trying |
>>   39 1520.094997642 192.168.86.128 → 192.168.86.34 SIP 407 Status: 302 Moved 
>> Temporarily |
>>   40 1520.102323728 192.168.86.34 → 192.168.86.128 SIP 453 Request: ACK 
>> sip:[email protected]:5060 |
>>   41 1520.591300933 192.168.86.128 → 192.168.86.34 SIP 407 Status: 302 Moved 
>> Temporarily |
>>   42 1521.591061065 192.168.86.128 → 192.168.86.34 SIP 407 Status: 302 Moved 
>> Temporarily |
>>   43 1523.591227956 192.168.86.128 → 192.168.86.34 SIP 407 Status: 302 Moved 
>> Temporarily |
>> 
>> 
>> 18(24) DEBUG: tm [t_reply.c:1703]: t_retransmit_reply(): reply 
>> retransmitted. buf=0x7f6d79745dc0: SIP/2.0 3..., shmem=0x7f6d75187fd8: 
>> SIP/2.0 3
>> 18(24) DEBUG: tm [t_reply.c:1703]: t_retransmit_reply(): reply 
>> retransmitted. buf=0x7f6d79745dc0: SIP/2.0 3..., shmem=0x7f6d75187fd8: 
>> SIP/2.0 3
>> 18(24) DEBUG: tm [t_reply.c:1703]: t_retransmit_reply(): reply 
>> retransmitted. buf=0x7f6d79745dc0: SIP/2.0 3..., shmem=0x7f6d75187fd8: 
>> SIP/2.0 3
>> 18(24) DEBUG: tm [timer.c:634]: wait_handler(): finished transaction: 
>> 0x7f6d75184cc8 (p:0x7f6d74f600c8/n:0x7f6d74f600c8)
>> 18(24) DEBUG: tm [h_table.c:132]: free_cell_helper(): freeing transaction 
>> 0x7f6d75184cc8 from timer.c:643
>> 
>> Any help to avoid the retransmission and make the transaction just finish 
>> right after the 302 will be appreciated.
>> 
>> regards
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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