At 01:39 PM 11/3/99 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>At 07:55 PM 11/2/99 +0000, Morgan A. Miskell wrote:
>
>>Sorry, I know this has been asked before.  Does anyone have a
>>recommendation as to what client I should use (free or otherwise)
>
>anne> Please read the FAQ.
>
>not to be nit-picky here, but i think the person was asking for
>recommendations.  it's true the faq has a list of clients, but i don't
>see any recommendation information in there -- perhaps w/ more
>information about provided features, whether the implementation was
>done out of the u.s. by a non-us citizen/resident, etc. people would
>have an easier time deciding from the faq what they might want to try.
>not that i think it would be easy to write that information up and
>keep it up to date (i do really appreciate the faq, btw).

Sorry, my bad. :( I thought he was just asking for clients, not
recommendations. I should read a little slower next time.

>so, assuming recommendation questions and answers are welcome here...

Of course they are. Again, my apologies for being snappy.

Mmm... opinions... :)

>my current recommendation is teraterm pro w/ the ttssh extension.
>tera term pro is a nice program w/ support for zmodem and kermit (and
>other) file tranfer methods -- it's also nice for people who want to
>deal w/ japanese (and may be some other languages) in their terminal.
>among other things, the ttssh extension supports rsa-key-based
>authentication and port-forwarding.  one thing it doesn't appear
>to have is scp :-(  teraterm pro is developed in japan and i believe
>the ttssh extension is developed in new zealand.

I've heard nothing but positive things about TTSSH (including personal use).

>i've started to test mindterm on linux and am finding it to be pretty
>good too -- some very nice things about it are that it supports scp
>and a gui for scp as well as the fact that it can generate rsa keys
>for you.  it also appears to support port-forwarding.  although i
>haven't tested it myself, i believe mindterm should work under windows
>(as well as a lot of other platforms).  mindterm appears to be
>developed in sweden.

Mats puts a lot of development into it, and from what I've played with of it,
it's pretty nice.

>i haven't tried putty yet.  according to a web page about it, the author
>has no intentions of implementing forms of authentication other than
>by password.  it seems to be developed in the uk.

Ditto, but heard good things about it.

>i believe the clients mentioned above have source code generally
>available.

Maybe. Check with the authors of the programs first.

>it doesn't look like fissh is generally available yet, and it appears
>that development is in the u.s. -- anyone have any information about
>this?

Yeah, the developers are highly entertaining. My assumptions are they're 
waiting for the RSA patent to expire before they release their product. Then
again, I could be totally wrong.

>perhaps someone else would like to comment on the other clients listed
>in section 2.2.3 of the faq.

Cedomir Igaly's client is very good too. :) The code is not available for it
though.

>for non-us users, is the vandyke client a legal option?  i seem to
>recall that it isn't, but i'd love to be proven wrong here.

Why wouldn't it be? They've licensed all the algorithms they need to...

>i've also tested the f-secure ssh client and found it to be quite good
>too -- but that was a while ago and at that time it didn't support
>character sets other than ascii nor did it support scp.  i've heard
>that the recent implementations may have fixed these shortcomings.

They now have command-line scp for windows, though the terminal emulation
on Windows
leaves something to be desired (personal opinion, not the company's).

>all of these implementations are mentioned in the faq (w/ urls), btw.

If you now of anymore, they of course, welcome :)

>p.s. this wasn't meant to be comprehensive, my aplogies in advance for any
>factual errors -- i'm assuming others will point out any mistakes.

Actually, I would like to have a recommendations list linked to the FAQ
(not in the FAQ though.. 
we're trying to keep the FAQ as unbiased as possible..).

-Anne
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Anne Carasik
Consulting Engineer
SSH Communications Security Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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