Dave, I kept and old email (Jan 2004) from Bert about converting the Frank S, I 
had a keen interest because I was considering the mod. See the text of Bert's 
message below. If I recall the original tank was required to be sent (or 
returned) so I would GUESS that the original aster valve was retained.


Dave Orwig


Bert's message:


Hello to all

I am surprised by the interest my suggestion for Frank S aroused and am pleased 
to be at last of some help to others.

I am at present on the way to an exhibition in Germany. E-mail is via cel-phone 
and my wife.


 Two manufacturers offer mod kits. web sites are in German language.
 www.bretzler.com Axel Bretzler has converted over 500! Frank S locos.
 he has 2/Two kits for immediate despatch. Further kits would take about
 4 weeks.  Hit the web site. Go next to the list on the left and select  Dampf 
& Diesel (steam & diesel) Now select "Dampfzubeh÷r, next select  Umrustsatz fur 
Frank S The text is in German. The pictures are  English!! 3 holes need to be 
drilled 2x 3mm in the frame and 1x  6mm aprox in the side tank top the complete 
kit can be fitted by  almost anyone who can drill a hole in the right place. 
The kit also  includes a water filling valve for filling while still under 
steam.

 The kit complete ready to go Ç115.00 plus postage.

 WWW.reppingen.de also produces kits, also of good quality, however his  last 
delivery to the U.S. took months. for simple "clack valves" ref.
 Pete Thornton who placed the order and had the long wait.  Due in the  main to 
misunderstandings and parts not being in stock, or so I have  been told.

 I would also be prepared to assist if required. I will be with both  
manufacturers as from tomorrow here in Sinsheim.  I am a user not a
 business.  At least not in this branch.   but I can speek German and
 English.

 If I know how many are interested by 8th Jan. I can get a delivery  date by 
12th Jan. via this e-mail address.
 Hope this is of some help.

 Have a good one

 Bert.

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Bert &  Edmunda
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David M. Cole
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 6:09 PM
To: Small-scale live steam discussions
Subject: Re: [SSLiveSteam] frank s filler valve ...

peter:

sorry, you're mistaken.

my frank retains its lgb-euro look; the only thing that changed was 
the move of the gas tank from the tender to the side saddle.

the retrofit i am referring to was -- if memory serves -- a kit sold 
by a gentleman in germany (i think), which provided a tank that would 
fit into the saddle and had a solid right-hand turn pipe that goes to 
the gas valve, which was moved off the tender and onto the cab roof 
next to the steam valve.

so what i'm looking for is information specific to that retrofit kit.

nonetheless, thanks for your thoughts.

\dmc

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