Thanks Jakub,

I added as you suggested and can login! Thanks so much! Couldn't find this 
option in man pages etc..what does this magic flag do exactly?

the primary group ( a mash of some large number with 513 on the end - Domain 
Users ) is coming up numeric - would you recommend a local /etc/group entry to 
deal with this?

Unfortunately i only have TCP 389/636 access to the domain (firewalled 
environment) so I can't use KRB5 though good to know - thankyou
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